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I see. You want actual examples and perhaps a map? For the moment, I will suggest that this gets to be too complicated of a discussion for a forum such as this. I will just say that terrestrial deltas (alluvial fans) are common and an example would be Uluru in Australia.The 'river shaped layers' are very common and present special problems in coal mining. They are composed of channel sands such as I showed in a couple of images and are, therefor, not 'layers' but strands of sandstone linked together in a fluvial system. Here is a block diagram showing how they form. Note the small buried channels (in yellow) on the far left and the far right of the diagram. Now just imagine this landscape being buried by younger sediments and eventually being lithified.

It is difficult to see how rising water would result in more terrestrial deposits.Just to annoy you further, I repeat my question regarding how trackways can be preserved in a global flood environment. Please explain how they got into the Paleozoic and Mesozoic rocks if those times were 'unlivable' for land creatures. Where did they come from?

However, there is less land to cover as well. Well, then, where do the sediments come from if there is no land left to erode? Ever notice how sediments virtually always end up at a lower elevation that their source areas?

So, you think that fresh tracks would be preserved as waves washed over them with each surge of the ocean.And you disregard the fact that these animals were scurrying across a landscape that was in existence at the time, albeit a shoreline. Where did they think they were going? Well, certainly there were some tracks in the higher units, but what about dinosaurs in the Mesozoic? And how about forests and ferns, etc. in the Carboniferous? How were they able to flourish and grow in between tidal surges?Again, you talk about 'unflooded ground'. Does that not constitute a landscape in existence at the time?It would seem to me that you are running out of time for a global flood to be global if there is almost always 'unflooded ground'.And I haven't even asked about the trilobite tracks yet. That would ostensibly be in the beginning of the flood as you describe it.

So, what were those animals walking on? Are you saying that dinosaurs were all marine creatures, walking on the bottom of the ocean? Are you saying that forests grew in the sediments at the bottom of a surging sea?I'm not getting your description of events here. How do you know that they were running? Or that they were running from a flood? Hmmm, I guess you don't subscribe to the old 'same data, different interpretation' YEC argument, do you? You simply deny that there is data or evidence in the rocks that tell us how they were deposited.Is that correct? I'm not seeing where those sediments came from, or how you could have shorelines without any landscape. So, the flood was intermittent? Or maybe incomplete? How long were the dry periods during the flood? Can dinosaurs build nests and lay eggs in between tides? How did forests grow on the sediments that you say were all deposited in one year? Maybe you should look at the rocks and see what their characteristics tell you.

Good question.One would think that it was pre-flood, perhaps at the base of the Cambrian. The only problem with that is that Faith does not recognize the Great Unconformity as an erosional surface. She is on record as saying that it was a shear plane.

I'm thinking that Faith believes there was one major transgression (ye fludde), lasting in one year, during which Carboniferous rocks were deposited in one place and Cambrian in another and Cretaceous in yet another. Every other geological event, except for formation of the earth, happened afterward.Consequently, the time divisions that we are accustomed to are completely meaningless. It was one year. All rocks are the same age.Only some sea creatures would be found in the encroaching sedimentary deposits which she also unexplainably calls 'unlivable'.As the waters rose, the terrestrial critters walked around on the primordial surface of the earth as it became smaller and smaller.This is Faith's world and it has a number of problems, of course.To me, it is wondrous that some of the tracks and other trace fossils such as nests, and rooted plants and stream channels, are actually in the fludde sediments rather than on the land surface. That would requite an extensive period of regression and drying out of the land along with the growth of vegetation, etc., etc. .... I suppose she thinks that those fossils were somehow transported from the 'unflooded' areas into the shallow seas.This, of course, also explains the presence of salt formations and deserts in Faith's geological record. I'm still not sure about coral reefs formed under these conditions of turbidity, occasional dessication and furious erosion.Another problem is that we always find Devonian fossils beneath Carboniferous fossils. If these all happened in the same year, then I'd expect them to be all mixed up with some at the same level and sometimes reversed.If Faith is right then there should be a two-month deposit of mud and clay spanning the entire earth, somewhere in the geological record, presumably in the middle of the record. And, of course, we do not see that.

Kind of interesting how dinosaurs only walked out onto the newly deposited sediments during the Mesozoic.And if their nests were built before the flood, how did they get transported up into the sedimentary section?And why would dinosaurs walk out on to an unlivable place anyway? Must have been kind of icky with all of that mud.Sorry, Faith, this isn't passing the giggle test.

You have yet to show us why the dinosaur were 'frantically running'. You have tides coming in and tides going out why would they be running if the don't run in modern times. Sorry, but I'm still laughing. Well, if they left tracks in an unlivable place at a certain time then there must have been someplace that was livable at that time.

Of course it is. However, it is also the logical result of your scenario.There are dinosaur tracks on the surface of the strata, no?The strata surfaces are unlivable, no?So, where did the dinosaurs come from to make the tracks?Clearly, it was someplace that was livable.

That's one of the problems with your scenario.The fludde can do anything that you want it to do.

And yet, they made the tracks.So, how did they do that if there was no livable place on earth? Did Noah take a rest stop and walk the dinosaurs? Well, then, there you go! A livable place.I'm glad we got that resolved. Moving on...

So, then, why did they walk back out into the flood sediments if they were trying to escape the flood? I mean, according to you, they were frantically running away from the flood.I know that dinosaurs weren't very smart, but this seems rather suicidal. (I'm just visualizing dinosaurs playing in the surf. Sorry.)

Wow! It's stunning, all of the things you can learn by reading the Bible.Now I know that a tidal surge that can overrun a dinosaur is also gentle enough to pick up little dino nests and gently transport them to wherever. Same thing with the coprolites.This is truly an amazing fludde.

Then I would expect to see evidence of that. Then the flood wouldn't be world-wide, would it?