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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
THE Flood DID produce layers and DID sort thngs as ew see themWhere did I say all life would be destroyed before any layers were laid down? I can't have said that, I don't think it's true. By the time ALL the strata were laid down, yes.
quote: Now you're saying almost all plant and animal life would survive that defacing? Magic water indeed!
Is WHAT "what we see?" I don't know what you mean.
So the first layer and each subsequent layer would overly all the fossils. Is that what we see?
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
The Gulf was formed after the strata were deposited.
That's one of your claims. Your claims are not evidence for your claims. You said "many signs of having been formed after all the strata were laid down". You neglected to list any. Because there aren't any.
It is not sea floor.
That's one of your claims. Your claims are not evidence for your claims. Again, why not?
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
It's only right to respond with explanation when someone asks for further information.
I did what I could to figure out your meaning. Your evasion reinforces my opinion that "unthinking knee-jerk reaction in a vain attempt to avoid having to address the issue" is why you think it's not sea floor.
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
quote:(Merriam-Webster) quote:(Wikipedia) quote:(YourDictionary) quote:(Webster) Looks as if Faith's definition of "sea" will be as quirky as her definition of "geologic column". If we ever tease it out of her. Edited by JonF, : No reason given.
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
There was no ocean in the Gulf of Mexico when the strata were laid down, all of them up through the Holocene.
Thus spake Faith, making yet another unsupported claim. You really are incapable of a clue about "evidence". Amazing. BTW, the discussion is about what's happening today. Do you understand the concept of "today"? When the Gulf of Mexico is part of the ocean and strata are being laid down there? Edited by JonF, : No reason given.
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Wrong. A (not THE) geological column is the rocks underlying a single point on the Earth.
So all the definitions of *the* geologic column that I posted are wrong?
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
THE Flood DID produce layers and DID sort thngs as ew see themWhere did I say all life would be destroyed before any layers were laid down? I can't have said that, I don't think it's true. By the time ALL the strata were laid down, yes.
quote:Now you're saying almost all plant and animal life would survive that defacing? Magic water indeed! Is WHAT "what we see?" I don't know what you mean.
So the first layer and each subsequent layer would overly all the fossils. Is that what we see? Faith? Are you there?
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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Now you're saying almost all plant and animal life would survive that defacing? Magic water indeed!
Where are you getting this? I've never said any such thing. It's an inescapable logical deduction from your claim that all the fossils were created by the flood and this:
The whole surface of the land would be so defaced just from the forty days and nights of rain it would be unrecognizable and then the strata piled on top of it would further erase any recognizable remains. I think a few creatures did manage to survive until the later stages of the Flood, it would have been very few and the vast majority must have been killed in the early stages.
Seems to me you said the vast majority would have been killed by being "defaced just from the forty days and nights of rain"
first layer and each subsequent layer would overly all the fossils.
I assume you mean "overlie," but I still don't get it.
If you want to claim they were picked up and saved somewhere to b e deposited in later layers, that's not physically possible no matter how much water you throw at it. Edited by JonF, : No reason given.
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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There was no ocean in the Gulf of Mexico when the strata were laid down, all of them up through the Holocene.
Thus spake Faith, making yet another unsupported claim.You really are incapable of a clue about "evidence". Amazing. BTW, the discussion is about what's happening today. Do you understand the concept of "today"? When the Gulf of Mexico is part of the ocean and strata are being laid down there? I now take it from your abandonment of the Gulf of Mexico discussion that you have no more unsupported claims and we can proceed on the basis of the geologic column still accumulating.
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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The evidence is on the provided cross sections. {Message 1070}
I don't see how that disproves sedimentation in the Gulf of Mexico. Please explain. ABE I note the fourth image is of West Texas TexLibris | UT Libraries Edited by JonF, : No reason given.
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
I think that she thinks that, since all the strata were laid down by the fludde, the Gulf didn't exist when the strata were laid down. Then magic created the Gulf.
Irrelevant to the fact that deposition and strata formation are happening in the Gulf, of course.
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Flood or no Flood it's very clear that the Gulf wasn't there when the strata were laid down because the strata accumulate flat and horizontal and they aren't going to do that in a gulf.
In a bowl they form a bowl. Thinner at the edges and thicker in the middle. Of course, in your black-and-white view there are no exceptions to the principle of original horizontality. It's not universal like the law of gravity. It is an expression of how gravity and topography and fluids interact to mostly produce horizontal flat surfaces.
And of course, whatever sediment is falling on top of the strata there is not how the geological column formed.
Um, you think that's how it happened. You just think it happened quickly. Edited by JonF, : No reason given.
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
I didn't say it couldn't be imagined, what I said is that LOCAL FLOODS don't provide a basis for imagining it.
So can it be imagined? Especially based on physics, chemistry, hydrodynamic, and geology?
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
300 million-ish.
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Why don't you stop being so blind and realize that I have given plenty of evidence?
You have no clue what evidence is. Such as your insistence that the definition of "the" geologic column shared by everyone but you is wrong. For example: "My definition is the only rational one" includes no evidence. "My definition is correct because the esteemed sedimentologist Professor Milo Minderbinder agrees with me" is better but weak because you may have misinterpreted him. "My definition is correct because the esteemed sedimentologist Professor Milo Minderbinder wrote, in Principles of Sedimentology second edition, 'the geologic column consists only of sedimentary layers above the basement rocks on land." contains significant evidence. Of course this was a waste of time. You are incapable of understanding the concept.
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