The New Neo-Nazi's

You are violating Forum guidelines by constantly repeating a lie - that I have not evidenced/provided links.You are also deliberately choosing to miss the point. The point is that the suicide bombings are whitewashed/justified, this fact is challenged by you not to even exist on one hand, then on the other hand, if it is then there are reasons and the persons doing it are "jerks".For this discussion it is assumed that the bombings are justified, (even though I have supplied several links to that effect) you choose to meander the debate by recognizing the justifications then in the next breath say they don't exist.My claim is basically invulnerable. The only issue is the excuses provided by pro-Palestinian persons. My linkage of the education issue and the accurate comparison to Nazis is absolutely correct, howbeit, an opinion.Your choice is to quit the debate or cry baby your lie that no evidence has been provided and hope your mommy/Admin comes rescues you.

Forget about high tech devices, what difference does it make if the means to kill is high tech or low tech ?Israel RESPONDS to attacks and threats, this makes their actions self defense and thus completely justified.Israel also punishes terrorism via various methods, again, this is a response to offensive actions perpetrated by an implacable enemy.Persons like you, exhibit a modern and warped view of justice, that each side is somehow responsible equally. The Palestinians perfectly demomstrate the hypocrisy of this demon-controlled world. Their society is as politically incorrect as can be yet these facts are totally ignored by the West, if this were South Africa there would be protests ad nauseum.Palestinian hate is overlooked, no other important people would be given this exemption if it wasn't that Jews are involved.

You overlook the fact that the Nazis justified the killing of Jews.University professors provide the justifications for those who are doing the killing today.The contortions attempted to insulate these rats is unbelievable !Glad you agree that we cleared this up.This message has been edited by WILLOWTREE, 05-06-2004 03:44 PM

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You are violating Forum guidelines by constantly repeating a lie - that I have not evidenced/provided links.

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I am fully aware that you have provided links.*pulls out megaphone, puts megaphone directly to Willowtree's ear* THE LINKS YOU HAVE PROVIDED ARE IRRELEVANT TO YOUR POINT, FOR REASONS THAT HAVE BEEN EXPLAINED TO YOU SEVERAL TIMES.

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The point is that the suicide bombings are whitewashed/justified, this fact is challenged by you not to even exist on one hand, then on the other hand, if it is then there are reasons and the persons doing it are "jerks".

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No, I am pointing out that if someone is justifying something, then it behooves the person who disagrees with them to point out why their justification is flawed/fallacious.*pulls megaphone out again* AS OF YET, YOU HAVE FAILED TO SHOW HOW THE LOGIC BEHIND THESE AS YET UNSPECIFIED EXAMPLES OF JUSTIFICATION ARE FLAWED.

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The only issue is the excuses provided by pro-Palestinian persons.

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*raises volume on megaphone* POINT TO A SPECIFIC EXCUSE. REFUTE IT. IF YOU CHOOSE NOT TO DO SO, THEN YOUR POINT IS NOTHING BUT ONE BIG EXERCISE IN MENTAL MONKEY-SPANKING.

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"As the days go by, we face the increasing inevitability that we are alone in a godless, uninhabited, hostile and meaningless universe. Still, you've got to laugh, haven't you?"
-Holly

My ears are ringing !"they have no other course of action""they are hopelessly downtrodden and persecuted by the Israelis""it is their land and their hands are tied with no other means to resist"Or any number of variations of the above.How about accepting the 1967 terms for peace, terms that are no longer available because of unquenchable Palestinian hate. How about recognizing Israel's right to exist ? How much of PLO leadership have done this ?This message has been edited by WILLOWTREE, 05-06-2004 05:54 PM

It's a start. Three completely unsourced, one-line arguments is better than nothing.It would certainly help, if you're looking to attribute these arguments to college professors, to tell us what college professor(s) said them, and in what context. Then we'd have specific evidence on our hands!Of course, even if you provide these things, we're also back to one important point that you keep ignoring.Ahem...*the megaphone seems to have had an effect, so Dan pulls it out again* PROVIDE EVIDENCE OF PREJUDICE AGAINST JEWS. EVIDENCE OF PROFESSORS CONDONING ATTACKS ON ISRAEL IS NOT THE SAME. JUDAISM IS A RELIGION. JEWS ARE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE PART OF THIS RELIGION, EITHER BY BELIEF OR HERITAGE. ISRAEL IS A GOVERNMENT. ISRAELIS ARE THE CITIZENS OF THIS GOVERNMENT. WHILE THE TWO GROUPS "JEWS" AND "ISRAELIS" OVERLAP, WE ARE NOT ONE AND THE SAME.

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"As the days go by, we face the increasing inevitability that we are alone in a godless, uninhabited, hostile and meaningless universe. Still, you've got to laugh, haven't you?"
-Holly

but let's keep trying.You say Was the current state of Israel in existence before 1948?

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!This is by far the most humorous post I have seen on this entire site.A megaphone... Man, what a capital joke! And raising the volume! I thought I'd burst.Dan, you are the best!

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"It's amazing what you can learn from DNA." - Desdamona.

I am not overlooking the fact that Nazis justified killing Jews or that there are people justifying the killing today. That is a rather feeble misrepresentation of my position. What I was saying is that the much greater crime the Nazis undertook was GENOCIDE, which is what made the Nazis monsters rather than just rats. The university professors you have a beef with may be rats, but they are not causing GENOCIDE and are thus not the monsters that Nazis were.A similar comparison would be to comparing a police officer to the Son of Sam. Since both fired guns, there is no difference between the two. Or perhaps comparing the Spanish inquisitors to you. The inquisitors were religious, and you are religious, thus there is no difference between you and they. See the problem with specious comparisons yet?

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The university professors you have a beef with may be rats, but they are not causing GENOCIDE and are thus not the monsters that Nazis were.
______________________________________________________________________I never claimed they were causing genocide. I claimed they were providing the rationale for cold blooded murder. Nazis had their rationales for murdering Jews, and as you know THERE ARE NONE !Which means the university professors who whitewash the murder of Jews are doing the exact same thing that Nazis did.

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Dan, you are the best!

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*bows* I try.

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"As the days go by, we face the increasing inevitability that we are alone in a godless, uninhabited, hostile and meaningless universe. Still, you've got to laugh, haven't you?"
-Holly

Don't get too fond of Dan - he is gay.

Would you please stop the yelling Dan ?All caps is considered rude and irrational, not mention the font size.

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Don't get too fond of Dan - he is gay.

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Really? Someone forgot to tell me.Damn, now I have to trade in all my porn for some guy-on-guy stuff.

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All caps is considered rude and irrational, not mention the font size.

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So is not responding to direct statements. What can I say, I'm a product of my environment.

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"As the days go by, we face the increasing inevitability that we are alone in a godless, uninhabited, hostile and meaningless universe. Still, you've got to laugh, haven't you?"
-Holly

Dan you are alright