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One_Charred_Wing
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Message 77 of 214 (101729)
04-22-2004 12:14 AM
Reply to: Message 72 by mike the wiz
04-21-2004 9:50 PM


BEWARE
"PS, I see you changed your avatar, as you are now ashamed at the silly things you have accused innocent scientists of. "
Yes, but beware of those innocent cartoon eyes. They'll getcha! And turn you into a fundie!!!
[This message has been edited by Born2Preach, 04-21-2004]

Wanna feel God? Step onto the wrestling mat and you'd be crazy to deny the uplifting spirit.

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One_Charred_Wing
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Message 82 of 214 (101738)
04-22-2004 12:44 AM
Reply to: Message 67 by desdamona
04-21-2004 9:33 PM


From A fellow CHRISTIAN
Desdamona,
Before I say anything else I've noticed you assume I'm an atheist, or at least a non-Christian. Please remember I am a Christian. A Methodist(go ahead and get mad at that, I dare you ) but that's still Christian.
desdemented-I mean desdamona writes:
"Some of us christians don't stray from the holy bible ,and we sure don't attempt to add to God's word"
Interpreting God's Word and adding onto it are two different things. Please don't confuse the two.
desparate-I mean desdamona writes:
"evolution is a religion that cannot prove itself by science"
Evolution is not a religion, it's a SCIENTIFIC theory. (If you can't tell, the adjective 'scientific' may hint something to do with science)
Science is about making theories and observations, the scientists are the ones who decide whether or not things are proof, science does not attempt to prove anything. The theory of gravity is not a religion, nor is String Theory. So why is evolution any different?
desdeluded-I mean desdamona writes:
"It cannot be observed,it has no tests made for it,it cannot be verified,and it's not repeatable."
A natural 'test' occured during the Industrial Revolution.(please, PLEASE say you at least know what that is so I don't have to explain it!)
The tree bark became dark from the soot, and the butterflies that were white became more noticable to predators, while the originally less common dark butterflies began to be more common. Note that is Natural Selection and not Evolution, but Natural Selection is a part of the ToE.
desgruntled-I mean desdamona writes:
"You cannot pervert God's word to suit your faith in evolution."
I don't have faith in evolution, I have faith in God. But also, if ToE is a 'religion',according to you, then how can you pervert its words to suit your faith in Christianity?
desregarding-I mean desdamona writes:
"How much longer will it be until you are a full fledged evolutionist?"
'How much longer will it be until' you start making sense?! That makes it sound like some kind of plague. ITS JUST SCIENCE!!
Sorry about the quotes, had to have some fun because I just learned how to do the blue box.

Wanna feel God? Step onto the wrestling mat and you'd be crazy to deny the uplifting spirit.

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One_Charred_Wing
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Message 83 of 214 (101740)
04-22-2004 12:55 AM
Reply to: Message 79 by Asgara
04-22-2004 12:23 AM


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That was pretty funny, especially Dan's comment about the head exploding. However, this is partly why I really don't think I should put a picture of myself as my avatar. The majority of pictures of me doing anything cool also involve spandex, hence the signature.
Now about your self portrait, while much more attractive than your other one, are you sure it's not too much exposure?

Wanna feel God? Step onto the wrestling mat and you'd be crazy to deny the uplifting spirit.

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One_Charred_Wing
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Message 123 of 214 (101957)
04-22-2004 7:41 PM
Reply to: Message 91 by desdamona
04-22-2004 2:52 AM


Re: From A fellow CHRISTIAN
Born2Screech was a pretty good pun comeback, I'll give you that.
desdamona writes:
He still thinks evoltionary religious faith is science!
Alright, I'll play along. Please explain to me how evolutionary
'religious faith' is NOT science. But here's the rule: You must give reasons, not just tell me that it is not. You quoted my reasons for asserting the ToE is purely scientific, thank you. However, since you acknowledged it please analyze it. Also please remember to give me good, logical reasons why evolutionary 'religious faith' is so religious. Thanks.

Wanna feel God? Step onto the wrestling mat and you'd be crazy to deny the uplifting spirit.

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One_Charred_Wing
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Message 124 of 214 (101960)
04-22-2004 7:51 PM
Reply to: Message 105 by desdamona
04-22-2004 3:30 AM


Re: From A fellow CHRISTIAN
"Do you believe the bible contradicts itself?"
It's been rewritten/translated many times and 'edited' at least once in the last two thousand years. I believe it has some kinks in it but the message of Jesus as the messiah and God's love is there. I believe in those teachings, but there are parts of the Bible like Noah's Flood (assuming it happened) that contradict the love of God that I believe in my spirit.
desdamona writes:
Don't get me wrong,I'm happy you are a christian,at least you believe in God"
Thanks. You too, I'm happy that you feel so strongly about this wonderful faith that so many of us share.
desdamona writes:
you say anyway
Please don't accuse me of lying. I may be a smartass but I'm not a liar.
desdamona writes:
but are you sure you understand what TOE is all about?
I got my only B in biology ever (as opposed to Cs)during the evolution unit last semester, I'd say I have adequate knowledge of the basic fundamentals. I won't claim to be an expert, but I have some understanding of it. However, do YOU know what it's all about?
And no, it's not about thwarting the Truth and it'd not about Satan trying to lure people away from God either.

Wanna feel God? Step onto the wrestling mat and you'd be crazy to deny the uplifting spirit.

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One_Charred_Wing
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Message 136 of 214 (102050)
04-22-2004 11:45 PM
Reply to: Message 125 by desdamona
04-22-2004 8:24 PM


You're getting there
desdamona writes:
I'm sorry that it seemed as though I called you a liar.
I'm learning about debating these things,but it has been very hard for me to understand how to do it.
It's alright, apology accepted. I'm sorry for screwing around with the quote boxes, too.
If you can be polite and non-judgemental then it's fine to learn how to debate here, everyone would be more than happy to help.
I appriciate your strength of faith, and really we all do. If you don't know about something, feel free to ask away at the designated forum, and someone will usually explain or give you sources to look up.
I can tell you're starting to understand more about evolution. Feel free to ask about anything you don't understand. Thanks for bein' here.

Wanna feel God? Step onto the wrestling mat and you'd be crazy to deny the uplifting spirit.

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One_Charred_Wing
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Message 206 of 214 (102546)
04-25-2004 3:52 AM
Reply to: Message 201 by AdminAsgara
04-24-2004 11:43 PM


Big red monsters that kill sh*t
Where do you get all these little picture things? I could sure use a picture of a big red monster that burns little bunny rabbits for when people piss meoff.

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