A fatal logical flaw in creationism?

Could someone please explain to desdamona one more time that she needs to provide evidence for her claims?Edited:Also, could someone please ask desdamona to tell us if she knows the mechanisms of evolution? She is making all these claims regarding evolution and I just want to know if she knows the first thing about the theory itself.[This message has been edited by Lam, 04-21-2004]

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Don't tell me you just realized that.

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Ok, I can't stand it anymore. Circle = A plane curve everywhere equidistant from a given fixed point, the center. Round = Being such that every part of the surface or the circumference is equidistant from the center: a round ball. Big difference between the 2 words.

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The sad part is I doubt she understood any of Mike's post. Based on her past behavior, which she exhibited next to no reading comprehension skill whatsoever, she will simply dismiss Mike's message as fuzzy words.

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Sylas, I just have to ask. Is your avatar really a picture of you on a really bad day?

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What was Ned's and your avatar look like before?

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Sylas showed you one thing and you went berserk with it. What's next, pictures of you on playgirl?

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Ok, I'll break my vow of silence.If something is a circle, then it is round. However, if something is round, it does not necessarily have to be a circle.If you can name one object in this world that is a circle but 3 dimensional, then you are smarter than all of us combined.If something is spherical (3 dimensional), it absolutely cannot be described as a circle.Get your definitions straight. English is my second language and I can still make that simple distinction.

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First of all, the reason we were nitpicking the bible right down to the letter was because you claimed that the bible is absolutely 100% accurate, both scientifically and morally.You have finally admitted that there are imperfections in your holy book. This is the first and greatest step you've taken to get away from your delusional state of mind.Get this straight in your head. Nobody here is trying to get you to lose your faith. All we ask is you get your facts straight before making incredible claims on here. As a rule of thumb, be prepared to back up your claims with either credible sources or reasonable explanations everytime you make an assertion.

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I will answer to each question off the top of my head.

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Did you know,Every session of Congress begins with a prayer by a paid preacher,whose salary has been paid by the taxpayer since 1777?

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Even if this is true, our country was founded on the basis of majority rule with minority rights. I don't see how this info can help us in our debate.

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Did you know 52 of the 55 founders of the Constitution were members of the established orthodox churches in the colonies?

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If this is true, so what? This country is now the most diversified country in the world. Again, majority rule with minority rights.

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Did you know,Thomas Jefferson worried that the Courts would overstep their authority and instead of interpreting the law,would begin making law...an oligarchy...the rule of few over many?

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And this has what to do with what we are talking about?

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Did you know that the very first Supreme Court Justice,John Jay,said,"Americans should select and prefer Christians as their rulers?

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The supreme court also ruled that blacks were not really human and that justified slavery. What supreme court justices in the past had said have absolutely nothing to do with the here and the now.

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As you enter the Supreme Court courtroom,the two huge oak doors have the Ten Commandments engraved on each lower portion of each door.

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I believe that those were removed. Not sure.

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James Madison,the fourth President,known as "The Father of Our Constitution" made the following statement"We have staked the whole of all our political institutions upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves,to control ourselves,to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God."

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Again, Madison also supported slavery and breaking treaties after treaties with the native Americans. Are you going to try to justify that too?

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We can go on and on like this,I happen to know that America was founded on God,amen. Only God can make a nation free!

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Would you like to back this up with an explanation?

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When they say one nation under God,they use to mean it!

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The 2 words "under God" were not in the origional pledge of allegiance. It used to be "one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all." General Eisenhower added in the 2 words to justify that "God" was on the Americans' side in the war. Get your facts straight!

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When we say the land of the free,we don't mean free to fornicate,lie,steal or murder the unborn.

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Just what in the hell are you talking about?

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Do you know what the Geneva Bible is? It was the Bible that came with our ancestors to America.
God is first,amen.

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The Puritans were also some of the first people to colonize America. They happened to have a witch hunt and killed of a few dozen innocent people.I just told buzsaw in another thread this and I'm going to tell you the same thing. What you have done is used tradition to make a case for your argument, which is something that I don't think even you know what you are arguing for anymore. You are in fact committing one of the fallacies of argument: Appeal to tradition.You are practically saying that since A is traditional, therefore A is true or correct. I can say the same thing about slavery. Tradition doesn't mean right.

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Then explain again about Earth being a circle.

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I don't care if you're a woman or half woman half man. I treat everyone equally.Good to see something positive from you. And excuse my impatience.

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I'll try to explain phylogeny in even simpler terms.It is a branch of science that studies evolution of life and relationships between individual species. We can look at fossils and examine the similarities of features. We can compare "DNA" of currently existing species to see how closely related they are. Through such studies, we can draw out a "tree" that shows where and when a species branched out and became its own species.Here is a sample of what a phylogeny tree for primates.

{Right click on graphic, to see full scale version - AM}
{Rescaled graphic, to restore page width to normal - AM}Notice how over time different species branched out of certain individual species.[This message has been edited by Lam, 04-23-2004][This message has been edited by Adminnemooseus, 04-23-2004]

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Hahahahahaha. You finally fixed the italic code.

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I'm pretty sure that by the time I finish graduate school I will be as cranky as you

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