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A fatal logical flaw in creationism?

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mark24
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Message 176 of 214 (102268)
04-23-2004 6:52 PM 		Reply to: Message 175 by desdamona
04-23-2004 6:43 PM

Re: There had to be a first!
desdemona,
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Do you accept evolution or not. It is sciences CENTRAL theorem for biology.
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Mark
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"Physical Reality of Matchette’s EVOLUTIONARY zero-atom-unit in a transcendental c/e illusion" - Brad McFall
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04-23-2004 7:04 PM 		Reply to: Message 180 by desdamona
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Re: There had to be a first!
desdemona,
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At the stage I'm at now,I honestly do not accept it as fact in my own life.
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And what evidential reason leads you to reject evolution?
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Note; this requires a knowledge of logic & science to answer. My informed guess is that you will reject evolution for unscientific reasons. Meaning you DO have a problem with science. Prove me wrong.
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Mark
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Message 190 of 214 (102288)
04-23-2004 7:27 PM 		Reply to: Message 185 by desdamona
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Re: There had to be a first!
desdemona,
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& what information (& I mean real verifiable information) do you have to conclude anthing else?
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I've already given you scientifically valid evidence that shows cladistics matching stratigraphy beyond reasonable doubt ( & then some) The information has already been given.
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Mark
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Message 191 of 214 (102289)
04-23-2004 7:34 PM 		Reply to: Message 189 by Asgara
04-23-2004 7:24 PM

Re: There had to be a first!
Good suggestion.
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Perhaps, & I think this is true of all non-sciency fundies, a "what constitutes science" thread is in order (again).
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There are far, far too many people declaring what is & isn't scientific without a Scoobies notion of what is & isn't.
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A "how to be consistent/logic" thread, too.
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Mark
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Message 198 of 214 (102380)
04-24-2004 8:02 AM 		Reply to: Message 193 by desdamona
04-23-2004 9:34 PM

Re: There had to be a first!
desdemona,
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however, lables and names you use when talking about those that disagree with you is not going to win converts or a willingness to change to your way of viewing things.It only inspires anger and yes, even christians will get upset and irritated at you. No one likes being treated ugly.
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You are being treated exactly as you deserve.
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I have caught you lying & being a hypocrite. You have hand waved away evidence simply by claiming "that's not evidence". No supporting argument, no reasons, just a dismissal.
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If this is what Christians feel is acceptable behaviour then it's you who are unlikely to win converts, not me.
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We cannot believe in every scientist,we have to choose which scientists we feel are best at presenting their views.
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We don't "believe" scientists at all. We accept or reject proposed hypotheses & theories based upon their logical efficacy, evidential support, & falsifications realised or not. A scientists presentation skills are neither here nor there.
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Science is not like being preached at from the pulpit.
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How do you mean "evidence" and beyond resonable doubt?
You have not even given any names and sources.
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Yes I did. See the link at the top of the post, there is a link in there which takes you back to Bentons study. How quickly you forget.
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Mark
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[This message has been edited by mark24, 04-24-2004]
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04-25-2004 7:12 AM 		Reply to: Message 199 by desdamona
04-24-2004 11:39 PM

Re: There had to be a first!
desdemona,
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At Sylas' request, I respond to your good, honest Christian invective here.
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Mark
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"Physical Reality of Matchette’s EVOLUTIONARY zero-atom-unit in a transcendental c/e illusion" - Brad McFall
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