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of course I have proven nothing becuase you guys refuse to debate, all you have in your arsenal is name calling.that one was way to easy, like fighting a cripple.Edited by Artemis Entreri, : No reason given.

why bring Muslims up in a racism debate? Muslim is not a Race. if hating a religion is racist, ever single anti christian on here, is racist, which is probably 90% of the site including the owner and all the biased mods.Why not speak about your love or Hate of Islam in a thread about Islam, not about Race?

what lacks validity is proof and using name calling as a defense for your stance. Maybe you just show up ocasionally and not read everything, and just pop in here and then, but if you had been reading this thread you would notice 51 posts ago in message 129, I said I had no problem being a bigot. so I would have to say that no one figured anything out, especially you. being called one is only bad if that is all you got, as is the case for Theodoric. calling names is all they got, and I agree those people belong on the playground, but undourtunately we cannot make them got there, so we much just deal with thier chilidish minds and ways of thinking. according to the 1st sentence, many of the liberals and name callers definately fit well. yep sencond sentence explains the names callers as well.what y'all think I am, is the evolved vernacular version, but what the name callers is the the old REAL definition. Even though I am not nor have been hostile to different races, my desire to avoid places with high concentrations of black people some how makes me a bigot. All I can say is those of you calling me a bigot are really just making up your own definitions.there you go Ringo, I hope that spelled it out for you.

Thank you for the perfect example of what you bring to this forum, trash talking without the evidence you all claim to have. This should be your signature as it is the drivel you usually push out. Well according to the definition of the word, what did I say that was bigoted? I still cannot understand where anyone is coming from other than, I am obviously not a liberal, so that makes it ok to call me names around here (Racist and Bigot being the two favorites).One of my favorite bumper stickers

Well my evidence leads me to think differently, and so far I have not really seen any evidence from your side, other than to just label me as, ignorant, uneducated, or plain dumb.Here are the 10 safest cities in the United States with a population of at least 100,000 people:
Amherst, NY — Population 110,351 (3.90% Black)
Irvine, CA — Population 209,278 (1.45% Black)
Thousand Oaks, CA — Population 124,106 (1.06% Black)
Round Rock, TX — Population 102,411 (7.72% Black)
Cary, NC — Population 125,277 (6.15%)
Murrieta, CA — Population 105,666 (3.39% Black)
Gilbert, AZ — Population 220,373 (3.08% Black)
Surprise, AZ — Population 101,141 (2.61% Black)
Simi Valley, CA - 121,572 (1.30% Black)
Orange, CA — Population 134,852 (1.60% Black)I added in the black percentage according to the 2000 US Census data that is out there and free to all of us not to lazy, or dumb to use their website.Here are the 10 most dangerous cities in the United State with a population of a least 100,000 people:
St. Louis, MO — Population 356,204 (51.20% Black)
Oakland, CA — Population 401,587 (29.80% Black)
Flint, MI — Population 113,462 (53.27% Black)
New Orleans, LA — Population 281,440 (67.25% Black)
Birmingham, AL — Population 228,314 (73.46% Black)
Cleveland, OH — Population 433,452 (52.50% Black)
Jackson, MS — Population 174,734 (61.60% Black)
Richmond, CA — Population 101,680 (36.06% Black)
Kansas City, MO — Population 451,454 (28.60% Black)
Orlando, FL — Population 229,808 (27.40% Black)I added in the black percentage according to the 2000 US Census data that is out there and free to all of us not to lazy, or dumb to use their website.Now I would not be so Ignorant to think that correlation equals causation, but it is rather odd to me that these places with high percentages of black people are very dangerous places. (I spent the 1st 27/32 years of my life in St. Louis, Missouri; and have 1st hand in person observational experience, on how dangerous that city is, and who is committing what types of crimes.) So when you tell me that Cuba is 85% black, I think of other places that have a high percentage of black people, and of my desire to avoid them. I do not think so, but feel free to keep your own opinions about me. us equal to you? what does this part mean? I asked you earlier if you were black and you said no. So I’m not sure how you fit into this feeling like I am dissing you. It sounds as if nobody knows what the demographics of Cuba are so I would probably just have to go and check it out, and If it was not to my liking then I would get on the 1st boat back to Florida.

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Link to data: this is where I got the lists for the Cities That I used above, with smaller cities safer than lager ones I used the smaller ones, though I think that my hypothesis will stand with any high crime city in america, no matter the size of it. No webpage found at provided URL: http://peacesecurity.suite101.com/article.cfm/safest_cities_in_america#ixzz0u8JyjLRd

HAHAHA. Its hard to tell when you are trying to be funny or not. I don’t fear black people, I just don’t really like to be around them in a setting where, they are the majority. Its hard to explain and probably harder to understand, but I have one Black friend, and when he is hanging with the white guys, he rules. But if I go to his house and I am the only white guy its like he a different person, and I cannot understand 50% of the words that come out of his mouth. I tried to get him to explain it, when I called him out for being fake, but he said I would not understand. Indeed. =D
its so weird I agree with you on a lot of stuff, but bitterly contest others, where as I doubt I have any common ground with some of these people, whom I disagree with. Word. Well you see, you may have the name, but I am The Devil’s Advocate. I treat each thread as something different, where I try and argue for the side that is not very well represented, on this site it is Christian Conservatives, on other sites, its other things. You can link quotes from other threads, but I am like different attitudes on different threads, for the most part, I could call you a stupid fuck in the coffee house on an irrelevant topic like music, but agree with you and think you are a genius in a different thread, 5 minutes later. Of course I would not expect you to understand, or you are twisting my words, one is ignorant and the other is dishonest, which are you?The problem is not the 14th amendment, but how it was passed and under the conditions that it was passed. You are all hung up on slavery, or thinking I think blacks are inferior (which is not what I said at all). This is really not relevant to what we are talking about in this thread though.You are the same as those people who said this about Barry Goldwater in the 1960s, and what the talking heads at MSNBC say today about Rand Paul, for having the idea that the Civil Rights Act of 1964 is unconstitutional. Instead of looking to the argument, and seeing what is being claimed you jump to they don’t like black people, I think probably because you can’t defend the accusation other than to attack those making them through liberal character assassination. Are you fucking retarded? Saying it does not make it so. Nothing that you quoted me saying had anything to do with me saying whites are superior. BTW Jews are white people. So you are telling me that I am anti-white-people white supremist? Umokgenius. Well at least you tried this time, by bringing up other posts and trying to show, why you think I am a white supremist; you are still being a prick about it rather than, a tolerant open minded objective scientist, like I know you think you are.

right, I am not saying blacks cause the crime, or "the danger", I am simply making an observational model meant to predict where "the danger" is located spatially in North America, in an effort for my self to avoid dangerous places, full of crime.I am just trying to be safe.hey Jar, thanks for disscussing it with me without the condescending attitude that everyone else has, and jumping at name calling right off the bat.I understand why people draw the conclusion of racism, I really do not want to talk with them as much as I would appriciate speaking to an open minded and objective person on this thought I have. what trait? bigoted, racist, ignorant?So. The numbers do not lie. while a high percentage of blacks (B%) may not be the reason for crime and danger to exist in these places, and I am sure there are other factors involved, B% could still be a barometer as to where common problems of danger exist in other areas of similar culture (USA, Mexico, Canada, The Caribbean).On the other hand I could be completely incorrect, it could be a false observation, and there could be places that do not fit and break this model.the main problem is that those who disagree with me, can only call me names and tell me how wrong I am, but can bring no evidence of places that have a high B% that are nice and safe, and somewhere anyone may want to go.I am current looking myself for a place in North America that does not fit my thought, but I have not found one yet, and as of yet I have failed to disprove it.

Roflmao I find it interesting that they exist, and I would prefer they do not exist in my backyard, which is why I choose not to live in these places any longer.I seem to care? are you reading into what I am saying again? I couldn’t care less, this is all for debate. These boards would not be half as fun if everyone agreed, I am just playing the heel. Now that’s just discriminatory against poor people; you poor-personist [SARCASM].I am not really into this Marxist line of reasoning that classes in society are the causes for things, especially crime. In my opinion some of the wealthiest heads of state (let me take Muammar al-Gaddafi since we were talking about Libya earlier, or maybe even Fidel Castro) are extremely criminal. Crime is not a class issue for me, and I can keep naming wealthy heads of state, that are probably more criminal than the citizens of that state, so I doubt wealth or lack there-of is the root.Besides In my comparison and data I was trying to show Dangerous places, based on violent crimes, and not crimes in general, as I am sure poor people steal across the globe, though stealing is not a crime that fits into the dangerous crime index. I didn’t mean you. You are one of the few people on here who keep it real, and are objective and honest, or at least I believe that you are (I could be wrong). I think you would more than likely have a good discussion rather than just call names and be a talking head.

Wow, I appreciate the engagement on this and as a professional cartographer I appreciate the attempt to use a map, though I wish there was a link to the place the map came from, or that the map had a legend outside of your own in parenthesis.I am not really sure why you chose a Choropleth map to illustrate your point though. It is really the wrong method in mapping. Choropleth maps are thematic maps designed to show the pattern of the statistical variable that is shown on the map. Now this can be properly accomplished with the data that you have, but on a world map it does not make any sense. As the map you use is clearly an example of the Modifiable areal unit problem Modifiable areal unit problem - Wikipedia. This is very common place in use of Choropleth maps, and Russia is almost a textbook example. Russia has the majority of its population along its western side (near/in Europe), while the majority of the land is sparsely inhabited. It is inappropriate to show the whole of Russia in a Choropleth map where the data is based on per 100,000 people because there are vast portions of Russia that are basically uninhabited. And then to compare it to Barbados, which is a mere 5 pixels on the map (and the same color, thus illustrating the same rate), yet telling me on the side that the numbers are off just does not make much sense to me. Also you chose to compare a region with one of the lowest population densities (Russia), to one with a high population density (Barbados).There is more than one reason why I limited the scope of my area to North America instead of the whole world, but this is a good example of one of them.Also this data focuses on murder only, where my data was on an index of multiple crimes (Murder, Rape, Assault, Battery, etc.).Once again I appreciate it and I think you are getting close, but it is hard to see your point in this post. Once again I do not see it. In the map you gave, Barbados and Russia are the same color, which would lead one to believe otherwise. And since you gave only a map but no links it s hard to deduce much from it.

Well since you asked, I made a very broad and quick map (took me about 10min). BTW the majority of Jews today may speak a Semitic Language (Hebrew), but are ethnically German and Eastern Europeans. They are called Ashkenazi, and they make up a vast majority of the Jewish population of the world today. And are white. Perhaps you have heard of the Ashkenazi language: Yiddish. While written in the Hebrew alphabet, its is composed of Hebrew, Aramaic (both Semitic languages), Slavic, German, and Romance languages (Indo-European languages).Maybe you would rather read this from another source, perhaps a peer reviewed one: Ashkenazi Jews - WikipediaIt is incorrect to refer to Jews as anything but white, and your silly comparison to calling Japanese white, is little more than the silly comparisons you make in almost every post.I don’t know what your generalization about Caucasians is about, so I Wikipedia that word as well. And interestingly enough it agree with me. Here is a photo from the page about Caucasians, showing the variety of them.
File:Europaeid types.jpg - WikipediaIf you notice the 7th picture is of the Bedouin Morph (Arabids) Since Both Arabs and Hebrews are Semitic People, I am going to have to agree, as I have anyway, that whether Jews are Semitic or European, they are have always been Caucasian (WHITE).You want to talk evidence, I’ll talk evidence, and the evidence says you have no idea what you are talking about when it come to Jews. You said I was an Anti-Semitic. White Supremacist. And since I have all the evidence that clearly states that Semitic peoples are white, you claimed I was Anti-White (Semitic), White Supremacist. Which like most of your ideas, makes little sense.Got any quotable evidence or is it all just generalizations about what people say ?Edited by Artemis Entreri, : bad with url links, but getting better

Of course my view is arbitrary, I was merely explaining my self, and giving evidence as to why I felt that way. You can always say that you think semitic people are not white, but I think they are. I don't really see how. I am not offended by there mere presence, I just know when there is a group of them together you need to tread carefully. I have never been panhandled by East Asians, South Asians, or White trash when I go into the City, guess who asks me for gas money though, almost every time I go into DC?It is all based on personal experience, and other things that I see in everyday life. bro you stated that you dont care that places like this exist, and then said that I seem to care that they do. I do not care that they exist, but I am not going there either, the only island in the caribbean that I would probably go to is Puerto Rico, maybe the Dutch Islands (ABC). If you have to go "all inclusive" its because the place is to unsafe, and I say no thanks to that (Mexico included). Wow I can't believe you walked into this one. a quick google search and I found a bunch:
here is the top 12 [irl] Top 12 NBA Players Who Had Trouble With the Law[/irl]
if you like I could make a list, but it is alot more than one or a few, more like 1 or two per team.
- you are from Miami correct? in 2007 the Miami Heat signed (PG) Smush Parker to a two year $4,600,000.00 salary. but supposedly assaulted a female parking attendant over $12.00
- in that same year Ron Mercer punch a guy while his buddy stabbed him while in a strip club fight.
- same year, jamison Curry pleaded guitly to public unrination and resiting arrest
- in 08 rasual butler was arrested for CCW without a permit, and wrongful display of a firearm. Also in 08 a pimp was arrested driving Bulter's car (bulter let a pimp borrow the car to deliver hos around)
- Isaiah Rider has been arrested for: unlawful possesion of a handgun (2008), kidnapping (2006), possesion of a controlled substance (2008), Auto Theft (2008), assault (2010), and kidnapping again (2010).
that is 5 but I can go on and on if you want me too. There are a bunch of example in this category of Wealthy Black guys committing violent crimes. ahh now i think we are getting into it.How long should it take for a new group of immigrants to establish themselves in a safe, an secure productive community here in the United States? Are you not a the child of immigrants? Are you out there robbing and shooting people, beating and raping women? Did your parents even speak English when they arrived FOTB? Did they have to turn to a life of crime to survive, because society was working against them. I don't know you or your family, but I have a good guess as to the answers of these questions. it wasn't a walk in the park for anyone, this country in mainly made up of the poor and unwated from other nations. the 1st generation in most cases does not speak the language, and has little or no support. do you think it was easy for chinese kidanpped and forced to build the railroad, is Chinatown where the G's of Cali are from? Are Chinatowns in other states the hood? Out here there are a lot of Koreans, and they may not understand the culture and the language that well (and they cannot operate a automobile for anything), but I am not worried about a group of Koreans approaching me at night on the sidewalk. I think the difference is most people immigrate here and want to make something and better themselves, while african americans feel entitled for the rest of us to take care of them. remember i said so many pages ago that we have to coddle them and not speak ill of them, that they must be treated like children, and by me daring to speak up i would be labeled as a racist by everyone? well I told you so. the only other group that I think is even close to blacks in thier inability to assimilate, is native americans (excluding Cherokee). all I know is that many different cultures of peoples have immigrated here, formed thier own communities (i'm sure Miami has a Cuban community, like Chicago has a Polish community, New York has an Italian one, Boston an Irish one, Minneapolis a Scandinavian one, etc. all these communities started as poor and foriegn, and the government worked against some of them, especially the catholic ones; but guess what? it took far less than 40 years for any of those people or thier descendats, before they "got the picture" and made sure that thier ghettos, where not like the ghettos of those we are talking about.It is very odd to me that all these cultures and peoples and races, and nationalities can get thier shit together except one.

ok. So!?!and the world hasn't always been classified as round, my point was that it doesn not matter how things were classified but how things are. I never mentioned classification, I said Jews always were Caucasian. I tried, it seemed to work in the preview then didn't work when i published it, I'll see if I can make it bigger. Its difficult because I am not sure how many pixels I have to work with on this site's page, and guessed a lower resolution to try for the 1st time. I'll try again, though my personal classification is very simialar to Stanley Garn (Thank you Coyote). thanks i had no idea about the "thumb" tags. shit it didn;t work i'll have to try agains later

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Credible is relative to the reader, and I never said wikipedia was a scietific source, as all kinds of things are peer review. I make Maps for a living (Cartographer), every time a finish a new map a peer reviews my map to spot human errors in the data. my maps are therefore peer reviewed. you didn't really say anythihg other than the obvious. yep, no argument from me, I was just making an obsevation that seems to be common of the Homo sapiens sapiens that have dark skin and originate from subsaharan africa. And how even though we are are the same race biologically, its weird that one color morph of our species stands out in certain ways and appears to have certain traits. I know we are all the same race, which is another reason calling me a racist does not make alot of sense. I do not think that Jews really come from a wide variety of ethnicities and backgrounds. there is the original, and those the original bred with. Judaism is a ethnic religion. While they technically "accept" converts, those are never really seen as truely Jewish, and Jews are not evangelizers/converters like Christians and Mulsims are. Really the true way to become a Jew is to be born a Jew from a Jew mother. and I agree that Jew is not a race, but people who are Jewish are white (I am sure there are some Black Jews out there, but I am also sure they are probably less than 1% of the total Jews). well I do, and I have. I do not who this "many" is that you speak of. I think the Suerians, Egyptians, Phoencians, Cretes, and Mycenaens were all white as well. are they white? to me racism is about superiority, and inferiority. I do not find black people biologically inferior, nor do i feel white people are biologically superior. But i do see many things that I find in black, cities towns, and hoods that I do not like. I do not see these things (in my personal experience) in the barrio, chinatown, the korean hood, or with south asians (Indians). pages ago I said: that for some reason in our day and age it was taboo to talk about why one may think blacks have problems, and what those problems are and how you feel about them. I was lulled into thinking this forum was a place of objective and open-minded people, where I could really talk about this, and there are a few people who can "think outside the box" here, but for the most part my prediction was correct about most of the users here.I just don't have a PC-Filter, and can discuss whatever.---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I studied more Friedrich Ratzel, and Ellen Churchill Semple and some modern Environmental Determinalist stuff from Jared Diamond. But my classes where in the Geography Department, and my background is more human geography. and only 1 decade back.I appriciate the mention of Stanley Garn, I looked his map up, Mine is really close to his except I don't really classifiy Micronesians, and I think the Philipines and Indonesia is not Asiatic.

well of course we have. word. I have hung out with the St. Lunatics, and worked a private party for Chingy and Ludacris, and yeah those guys act like they have seen the light, they got too much to lose to act a fool. I don't blame them, but celebrities, are different in my book. Well, i can't say i really kicked it with the st. lunatics, but I smoked weed with them a few times. yeah I hear ya, been there done that as well; though drivin to the hood for a late night weed purchase!?! for real? weed is urywhur, those late night trips for me were all about the booger sugar, back in tha day. well i dont want to get all into semantics, but well ok nevermind. they have been emancipated in the south since 1863, and in the border states since 1868, and in places like my home state of PR Illinios since 1818. and as far as that 2nd class citixen thing goes, almost every group went through that, see the Irish, and the Italians for great examples. well that is the evidence that I have had at my disposal so far...
BTW: I do not have TV and I do not watch the news. most of my evidence is 1st hand personal exp. Of course man.I guess "White Flight" is based on nothing too. ever notice what happends to those towns after all the white people move away? urban decays sets in and they go to shit. This already happend in the 1980s and 1990s in the former Rhodesia, except the whites immigrated away similar to a white flight, and then the nation that became Zimbabwe went to shit.the same thing is occuring right now today in South Africa, as they are realizing the dream is over, its time to leave as there are too many blacks, and thier desire to literally fuck the country to death (by the spread of AIDS), I could be wrong but I know some former south africans who are now americans, and have heard to much about the horror story that is South Africa. its well on its way to going to shit. interesting...you could guess exactly what I was referring to when I typed the same sentence (which you also quoted) about black cities and towns, yet when I mention another ethic/cultural group you draw a blank and ask for me to be more specific.I rest my case.

segregation wasn't like slavery, it did not exist the same in every state everywhere the same way. Some states were more strict with it and otherws were not. I guess you have never heard of Liberia, then...hmmm? word. My favorites are German, French, Dutch, Norwegian, Swede, Spanish, Swiss, Russian, Romainian, Polish, Danish, Bohemian, Croatian, Serbian, and Icelandic. in an urban area? those things you metioned are more a rural thing, and don't really have anythying to do with white flight and the resulting urban decay that is the outcome of white flight. no shit, sherlock holmes!!! all I said was that Jews are white, or at least the great majority are. you are comparing apples and oranges with your comparision of an Ethic Religion vs. a conversion religion. here I'll point out the white ones: (probably 95%+ of the worlds Jewsish Population)
Ashkenazim, Romaniotes, Sephardim, San Nicandro Jews, Subbotniks (cant get any closer to Caucasia than a nation in the caucas mountains), Krymchaks and Karaim, Yemenite Jews, Egyptian Jews.here are the non white jews: (I wouold bet 5% or less of the total world Jew population)
Bukharian Jews, Chinese Jews, B'nai Moshe, Jews of the Bilad el-Sudan, and Cochin Jews.I bet there is well over 500 white ancestries, but a white person is still a white person nomatter if they are from Iceland, or Iran. getting the cops called on you is not a big after the 3rd time, because then it becomes obvious to the cops who the crazy person is. I have some lefty neighboors myself, I just open carry around them all the time, and they don't say shit.

well since you asked.there is some genetic evidence that Homo neaderthalensis and Homo sapiens interbred with each other. This interbreeding occured outside of Africa, mostly in west Asia, and Europe.Sub Saharan Africans do not have this genetic information, because they did not breed with Homo neaderthalensis. So at the very least there is genetic properties that differentiate White people and black people right there.I got this from here Just a moment...Blonde Hair, Blue Eyes. Why? I think I just found my new signature, can I quote you on this?Edited by Artemis Entreri, : No reason given.