Racist?

what lacks validity is proof and using name calling as a defense for your stance. Maybe you just show up ocasionally and not read everything, and just pop in here and then, but if you had been reading this thread you would notice 51 posts ago in message 129, I said I had no problem being a bigot. so I would have to say that no one figured anything out, especially you. being called one is only bad if that is all you got, as is the case for Theodoric. calling names is all they got, and I agree those people belong on the playground, but undourtunately we cannot make them got there, so we much just deal with thier chilidish minds and ways of thinking. according to the 1st sentence, many of the liberals and name callers definately fit well. yep sencond sentence explains the names callers as well.what y'all think I am, is the evolved vernacular version, but what the name callers is the the old REAL definition. Even though I am not nor have been hostile to different races, my desire to avoid places with high concentrations of black people some how makes me a bigot. All I can say is those of you calling me a bigot are really just making up your own definitions.there you go Ringo, I hope that spelled it out for you.

Thank you riVeRrat. Given the reaction to this, you would be safer not to assume anything. For example, right now, I am trying to be very careful in choosing my words. I hope I am not misunderstood. I don't agree. jar took it the right way on the face of the sentence and over the years has probably not built up a mechanism to divine your true intent. I certainly haven't. In this case, I did look at the sentence again and came up with a way of interpreting it that would fall into your intent. I lucked out. We cannot read your mind or assume that you meant something that is not the most likely way to read this sentence.In other words, it had become more likely to take the sentence at face value with the implication of your state of mind taken that way, than it was to gerrymander the sentence back into something that presented a point of view on which we could all agree. That is really the more troubling part of this - your creds were already deteriorated enough to allow for that. Now that we know your true intent, it's time to go back and begin to repair those creds.We all would much rather assume posters here are basically nice guys & gals that fundamentally agree on most things. But the internet being what it is, this cannot be assumed. There must be a gradual buildup of trust between everyone.All the best,

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- xongsmith, 5.7d

Oh noes! Are the big, bad, evidence-based science types not playing nice with you? I'll call you a waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahmbulance.

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Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. -- Thomas JeffersonFor we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack ObamaWe see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- PhatIt has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate

Well, no, not really. That was a lot of words but not much substance.I asked which is worse, being a bigot or having people notice that you're a bigot. Let me answer it from my own point of view and we'll see if that clarifies the question for you.I am a bigot. As somebody's message subtitle said a while back, we all are. The thing is, I'm not "okay" with being a bigot. I don't want to be a bigot. If somebody tells me I'm a bigot, that's helpful. It's even more helpful if they tell me specifically how I'm being a bigot. I can't fix my flaws if they aren't diagnosed and humans are notoriously bad at diagnosing our own flaws.So my answer to my question is that it's worse to have a problem than to have somebody point out the problem to you. If you have a low tire and somebody points it out to you, you thank them. You don't rant about name-calling. "Low tire" is not an insult. It's constructive criticism.

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I rode off into the sunset, went all the way around the world and now I\'m back where I started.

No, that just makes you ignorant. Saying you don't want there to exist a high concentrations of black people in any specific place, makes you a racist.Your bigotry lies in your intolerance and devotion to your opinions and prejudices.Dude, you said you wanted to go to Cuba. Then I told you Cuba was now 85% black. That fact somehow made you not want to go to Cuba anymore. Frankly, that's just some dumb, ignorant shit to say... and pointing that out to you doesn't make us equal to you.- Oni

I agree that to each individual his/her own. But to the religion itself, yes, you can. That some have chosen not to stone a homosexual or beat their wives is just that, their own choice. But if it can be documented that these religions have scriptures that demand this of their followers, then the religion has dogmas within it that are against the law. Which I thought was your question. I would say the western media, especially the right-wing media, has played a big part in demonizing Muslims. "Arty" seems totally racist, yet he likes hip hop. So my guess is that he fears black people and has a penis inferiority complex toward them.Rat to me doesn't, he seems like a devout Republican who maybe listens to the right-wing media a bit too much. I know this type because my dad fits this persona.It's not my dad's fault, he's never even meet a Muslim. The only time he sees the word "Muslim" is when it is followed by "extremist tries to bomb (fill in the blank)." He's never sat down on a subway next to one, talked to them about the Yankees, eaten at one of their restaurants - hell, I'd bet my dad doesn't even know there are different types of Muslims. He bunches them all into one radical group of extremist, and again, not because he wants to, but because that's all he's exposed to.My dad, in this matter, is just ignorant. But I wouldn't say racist.- Oni

And there you have it again. Even though I already explained myself, and said I would have a problem living next to a Christian cult who's belief's I would find questionable, you still try to peg me as a racist.Most Christians I know, are the biggest hypocrites. I would prefer to live next door to an Atheist, who doesn't mind living next door to a Christian. We would probably get along better. Or even a Muslim, I seem to get along with them really well too.But I would not like to live next door to a radical anything. Maybe I am racist against all radicals? Raging liberals? Especially ones that call the cops every time you fart.But that is not the point. I don't automatically assume people are a certain way, just because they are a pull start, or a push start, yellow, white, black, or green. People's colors or ethnic belief's do not make them bad. Bad people, are just bad people. I've had more problems with white people, than any other race throughout my life, and after 11 years in business, my worst customers were Italian. As I mentioned before. I meet several new people every day, and have to deal with them on a personal level, and go through the most private parts of their houses. I've worked in thousands, upon thousands of homes, and dealt with them all. I see how people are, and that is exactly why I am not racist.*edit*
And by the way, you have no right to call me a racist. You don't even know me, or have you provided any proof to back up your name calling. I think it is your own prejudice against believers that brings you to the name calling shit. Maybe the Priest abused you as a child, so now you take it out on every Christian? Doesn't that make you some kind of racist, or bigot minded?Edited by riVeRraT, : No reason given.

I am an independent, and I listen to both medias. I switch between CBs, and Fox, listen talk radio sometimes, but I hate Rush, and I've worked in and around Muslims my whole life. Also have a few Muslim friends, who are just awesome people.

Yeah, but listening to both sides doesn't actually make you "independent." Independent is an opinion different from both sides.Like this: z.com.netFOX is full of lies, probably the worst news source in the mainstream. But they're both corporately owned news sources that have an agenda. Everything thing they say is suspect. They're out to sell GM cars and Doritos, not give you honest journalism, IMO. Limbaugh, right? Not the band! That would be blasphamy! Sorry, didn't mean to make that about you. I meant the example more for my dad.- Oni

You might get less flak if you called yourself a "recovering racist" instead of vehemently denying that you're a racist. Overcoming a problem is more impressive than never having one in the first place.

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I rode off into the sunset, went all the way around the world and now I\'m back where I started.

Your opinion.Others might consider NBC to be the worst.Liberals just can't seem to tolerate any opinions that differ from theirs. They are now trying to legislate their opinions into law by branding anything else hate speech. So much for the first amendment.A more intolerant bunch I have rarely seen./poke

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Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

Objective fact:

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Other details are equally eye-opening. Pew judged the levels of knowledgeability (correct answers) among those surveyed and found that those who scored the highest were regular watchers of Comedy Central's The Daily Show and Colbert Report. They tied with regular readers of major newspapers in the top spot -- with 54% of them getting 2 out of 3 questions correct. Watchers of the Lehrer News Hour on PBS followed just behind.

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Virtually bringing up the rear were regular watchers of Fox News. Only 1 in 3 could answer 2 out of 3 questions correctly. Fox topped only network morning show viewers.

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It's been proven that Fox is a network that deliberately misleads their viewers. That's never been proven about any mainstream media source. And, what legislation is that, by bill number? Please be specific.

Um, ok. You got me, I am not an ornithologist. Shall we analyze all your previous quotes from this and other threads? Obvious antisemtism.further quotes by AE: Of course what is the 14th Amendment? It is the Amendement which provides citizenship to the newly emancipated black slaves after the Civil War. Anyone see a problem with the 14th ammendment? Really?!?I will not only stand by the proverb but will emblish it:"If it talks like a white supremist and acts like a white supremist ...."Heck you may not have the membership card but you seem to have the same mission statement. What do you want to debate? I am all ears. Tell me that you have hundreds of black and Jewish friends and that you are really not a racist. That required a lot of brain power. Did you just make that up? Tag, no tag backs.Edited by DevilsAdvocate, : No reason given.

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"It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." - Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World

Were you molested by a rabbi?Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

Thank you for the perfect example of what you bring to this forum, trash talking without the evidence you all claim to have. This should be your signature as it is the drivel you usually push out. Well according to the definition of the word, what did I say that was bigoted? I still cannot understand where anyone is coming from other than, I am obviously not a liberal, so that makes it ok to call me names around here (Racist and Bigot being the two favorites).One of my favorite bumper stickers