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Message 196 of 404 (569266)
07-21-2010 8:54 AM
Reply to: Message 195 by Artemis Entreri
07-21-2010 8:43 AM


Re: Everyone's racist once in a while...it's Hollywood, man!
Thank you for the perfect example of what you bring to this forum, trash talking without the evidence you all claim to have.
Please, take a vocabulary lesson. What you are doing with your petty, childish name calling, that's trash talking. What I was doing was mockery. There is a difference.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. -- Thomas Jefferson
For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate

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Message 197 of 404 (569270)
07-21-2010 9:06 AM
Reply to: Message 195 by Artemis Entreri
07-21-2010 8:43 AM


Re: Everyone's racist once in a while...it's Hollywood, man!
One of my favorite bumper stickers
Really? You must find being wrong peculiarly gratifying.

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Message 198 of 404 (569273)
07-21-2010 9:18 AM
Reply to: Message 185 by onifre
07-20-2010 5:03 PM


Re: Still don't get it?
No, that just makes you ignorant. Saying you don't want there to exist a high concentrations of black people in any specific place, makes you a racist.
Well my evidence leads me to think differently, and so far I have not really seen any evidence from your side, other than to just label me as, ignorant, uneducated, or plain dumb.
Here are the 10 safest cities in the United States with a population of at least 100,000 people:
Amherst, NY — Population 110,351 (3.90% Black)
Irvine, CA — Population 209,278 (1.45% Black)
Thousand Oaks, CA — Population 124,106 (1.06% Black)
Round Rock, TX — Population 102,411 (7.72% Black)
Cary, NC — Population 125,277 (6.15%)
Murrieta, CA — Population 105,666 (3.39% Black)
Gilbert, AZ — Population 220,373 (3.08% Black)
Surprise, AZ — Population 101,141 (2.61% Black)
Simi Valley, CA - 121,572 (1.30% Black)
Orange, CA — Population 134,852 (1.60% Black)
I added in the black percentage according to the 2000 US Census data that is out there and free to all of us not to lazy, or dumb to use their website.
Here are the 10 most dangerous cities in the United State with a population of a least 100,000 people:
St. Louis, MO — Population 356,204 (51.20% Black)
Oakland, CA — Population 401,587 (29.80% Black)
Flint, MI — Population 113,462 (53.27% Black)
New Orleans, LA — Population 281,440 (67.25% Black)
Birmingham, AL — Population 228,314 (73.46% Black)
Cleveland, OH — Population 433,452 (52.50% Black)
Jackson, MS — Population 174,734 (61.60% Black)
Richmond, CA — Population 101,680 (36.06% Black)
Kansas City, MO — Population 451,454 (28.60% Black)
Orlando, FL — Population 229,808 (27.40% Black)
I added in the black percentage according to the 2000 US Census data that is out there and free to all of us not to lazy, or dumb to use their website.
Now I would not be so Ignorant to think that correlation equals causation, but it is rather odd to me that these places with high percentages of black people are very dangerous places. (I spent the 1st 27/32 years of my life in St. Louis, Missouri; and have 1st hand in person observational experience, on how dangerous that city is, and who is committing what types of crimes.) So when you tell me that Cuba is 85% black, I think of other places that have a high percentage of black people, and of my desire to avoid them.
Dude, you said you wanted to go to Cuba. Then I told you Cuba was now 85% black. That fact somehow made you not want to go to Cuba anymore. Frankly, that's just some dumb, ignorant shit to say... and pointing that out to you doesn't make us equal to you.
I do not think so, but feel free to keep your own opinions about me. us equal to you? what does this part mean? I asked you earlier if you were black and you said no. So I’m not sure how you fit into this feeling like I am dissing you.
Wikipedia writes:
According to the census of 2002, the population was 11,177,743,[3] including 5,597,233 men and 5,580,510 women. The racial make-up was 7,271,926 whites, 1,126,894 blacks and 2,778,923 mulattoes (or mestizos).[128] The population of Cuba has very complex origins and intermarriage between diverse groups is general. There is disagreement about racial statistics. The Institute for Cuban and Cuban-American Studies at the University of Miami says that 62% is black[129], whereas statistics from the Cuban census state that 65.05% of the population was white in 2002. The Minority Rights Group International says that "An objective assessment of the situation of Afro-Cubans remains problematic due to scant records and a paucity of systematic studies both pre- and post-revolution. Estimates of the percentage of people of African descent in the Cuban population vary enormously, ranging from 33.9 per cent to 62 per cent".[130]
It sounds as if nobody knows what the demographics of Cuba are so I would probably just have to go and check it out, and If it was not to my liking then I would get on the 1st boat back to Florida.
Your bigotry lies in your intolerance and devotion to your opinions and prejudices.
quote:
Tolerance is the virtue of a man without convictions.
  —"G K Chesterton"
Link to data: this is where I got the lists for the Cities That I used above, with smaller cities safer than lager ones I used the smaller ones, though I think that my hypothesis will stand with any high crime city in america, no matter the size of it. No webpage found at provided URL: http://peacesecurity.suite101.com/article.cfm/safest_cities_in_america#ixzz0u8JyjLRd

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Message 199 of 404 (569276)
07-21-2010 9:32 AM
Reply to: Message 187 by riVeRraT
07-20-2010 5:59 PM


Re: You really need to think about what you write and be more clear
Maybe the Priest abused you as a child, so now you take it out on every Christian? Doesn't that make you some kind of racist, or bigot minded?
Please show me my "attacks" on Christians.
Maybe I am racist against all radicals? Raging liberals? Especially ones that call the cops every time you fart.
WTF?
Liberals call the cops more? Any evidence for this bit of weirdness?
I do apologize for the racist remark. That should have been directed toward Art solely.
I do think you are a racist, but calling you that does not do this discourse any good. You have extreme prejudices. If you are ok with being a bigot fine.

Facts don\'t lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

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Message 200 of 404 (569278)
07-21-2010 9:33 AM
Reply to: Message 157 by Taz
07-20-2010 12:08 AM


Re: Tea Party again, surprise surprise
That is because they are using very strong emotional rhetoric to 'attack liberals and big government', and the emotional rhetoric is what attracts the extremists.

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jar
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Message 201 of 404 (569279)
07-21-2010 9:37 AM
Reply to: Message 198 by Artemis Entreri
07-21-2010 9:18 AM


Re: Still don't get it?
Okay, here in a nutshell is the issue.
You said
Artemis Entreri writes:
Now I would not be so Ignorant to think that correlation equals causation, but it is rather odd to me that these places with high percentages of black people are very dangerous places.
Notice in that sentence you showed the exact trait people have mentioned, you first claim that you understand that correlation does not equal causation but then turn around and do just that; you assert that "places with high percentages of black people are very dangerous places".

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Message 202 of 404 (569280)
07-21-2010 9:40 AM
Reply to: Message 171 by AZPaul3
07-20-2010 11:20 AM


Re: Tea Party again, surprise surprise
All I know is that several Tea Party people that I know who made the claim that the 'racist' coming to the tea party rallies are a liberal trick made some very bigoted and racist comments of their own.
To me, that says something right there.

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riVeRraT
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Message 203 of 404 (569290)
07-21-2010 10:23 AM
Reply to: Message 190 by ringo
07-20-2010 6:47 PM


Re: You really need to think about what you write and be more clear
"Ringo" writes:
You might get less flak if you called yourself a "recovering racist" instead of vehemently denying that you're a racist. Overcoming a problem is more impressive than never having one in the first place.
Ringo, I was never raised a racist. My parents aren't racists, or is anyone in my family for that matter. Most of my family are liberals from the NYC area. I would say racism is far less in this part of the country, since NY is a big melting pot. Being Italian, I would say I was more racist towards Irish than anything else. I was raised in that era when there was still tension between those two nationalities, and lots of fighting. But ultimately it never really affected me, my first kid is half Irish.

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Artemis Entreri 
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Message 204 of 404 (569291)
07-21-2010 10:27 AM
Reply to: Message 193 by DevilsAdvocate
07-21-2010 12:20 AM


Re: Ever Seen a Duck?
"Arty" seems totally racist, yet he likes hip hop. So my guess is that he fears black people and has a penis inferiority complex toward them.
HAHAHA. Its hard to tell when you are trying to be funny or not. I don’t fear black people, I just don’t really like to be around them in a setting where, they are the majority. Its hard to explain and probably harder to understand, but I have one Black friend, and when he is hanging with the white guys, he rules. But if I go to his house and I am the only white guy its like he a different person, and I cannot understand 50% of the words that come out of his mouth. I tried to get him to explain it, when I called him out for being fake, but he said I would not understand.
"Arty" seems totally racist, yet he likes hip hop. So my guess is that he fears black people and has a penis inferiority complex toward them.
Indeed. =D
its so weird I agree with you on a lot of stuff, but bitterly contest others, where as I doubt I have any common ground with some of these people, whom I disagree with.
Liberals just can't seem to tolerate any opinions that differ from theirs. They are now trying to legislate their opinions into law by branding anything else hate speech. So much for the first amendment.
Word.
Shall we analyze all your previous quotes from this and other threads?
Well you see, you may have the name, but I am The Devil’s Advocate. I treat each thread as something different, where I try and argue for the side that is not very well represented, on this site it is Christian Conservatives, on other sites, its other things. You can link quotes from other threads, but I am like different attitudes on different threads, for the most part, I could call you a stupid fuck in the coffee house on an irrelevant topic like music, but agree with you and think you are a genius in a different thread, 5 minutes later.
Anyone see a problem with the 14th ammendment? Really?!?
Of course I would not expect you to understand, or you are twisting my words, one is ignorant and the other is dishonest, which are you?
The problem is not the 14th amendment, but how it was passed and under the conditions that it was passed. You are all hung up on slavery, or thinking I think blacks are inferior (which is not what I said at all). This is really not relevant to what we are talking about in this thread though.
You are the same as those people who said this about Barry Goldwater in the 1960s, and what the talking heads at MSNBC say today about Rand Paul, for having the idea that the Civil Rights Act of 1964 is unconstitutional. Instead of looking to the argument, and seeing what is being claimed you jump to they don’t like black people, I think probably because you can’t defend the accusation other than to attack those making them through liberal character assassination.
"If it talks like a white supremist and acts like a white supremist ...."
Are you fucking retarded? Saying it does not make it so. Nothing that you quoted me saying had anything to do with me saying whites are superior. BTW Jews are white people. So you are telling me that I am anti-white-people white supremist? Umokgenius.
What do you want to debate? I am all ears. Tell me that you have hundreds of black and Jewish friends and that you are really not a racist.
Well at least you tried this time, by bringing up other posts and trying to show, why you think I am a white supremist; you are still being a prick about it rather than, a tolerant open minded objective scientist, like I know you think you are.

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riVeRraT
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Message 205 of 404 (569293)
07-21-2010 10:28 AM
Reply to: Message 189 by onifre
07-20-2010 6:29 PM


Re: You really need to think about what you write and be more clear
"onifire" writes:
Yeah, but listening to both sides doesn't actually make you "independent." Independent is an opinion different from both sides.
Like this: z.com.net
That link doesn't really point me to anything. I say I am independent, because that is what I am registered as. Originally I was a democrat, because that is what my parents were, and how I was raised. Then I was republican for a while, but after realizing (thanks to this site, and the links to political testing) I found out I am in the middle of both sides.
An independent does not have a different opinion of both sides, it has a mixed one, a little from each side.
Limbaugh, right? Not the band! That would be blasphamy!
Got that shit right, RUSH is the bomb. I play keyboards, always loved RUSH.

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riVeRraT
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Message 206 of 404 (569294)
07-21-2010 10:30 AM
Reply to: Message 192 by crashfrog
07-20-2010 9:34 PM


Re: You really need to think about what you write and be more clear
"crashfrog" writes:
It's been proven that Fox is a network that deliberately misleads their viewers. That's never been proven about any mainstream media source.
That is just a crock of crap. 80% of what is reported is flawed, from everyone.

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riVeRraT
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Message 207 of 404 (569298)
07-21-2010 10:36 AM
Reply to: Message 194 by Dr Adequate
07-21-2010 12:57 AM


Re: You really need to think about what you write and be more clear
"Dr.Adequate" writes:
Were you molested by a rabbi?
Yea, he fondled my money, lol.
Seriously, I have stated it many times before, I think even in this thread. Some of my Hasidic customers act more "Christian" than my Christian ones. My point was, I don't have a problem with them, since I pointed we all live in a weird way. Almost everyone cheats with the government. They are just as much hypocrites, as many Christian leaders.
But not all of them are like that. So I won't discriminate.
Way to pull something I said out of context, bravo. You left the rest of the quote out.

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riVeRraT
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Message 208 of 404 (569299)
07-21-2010 10:38 AM
Reply to: Message 198 by Artemis Entreri
07-21-2010 9:18 AM


Re: Still don't get it?
"Arte" writes:
but it is rather odd to me that these places with high percentages of black people are very dangerous places.
Only if you are white.

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riVeRraT
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Message 209 of 404 (569302)
07-21-2010 10:43 AM
Reply to: Message 199 by Theodoric
07-21-2010 9:32 AM


Re: You really need to think about what you write and be more clear
"Theodoric" writes:
I do think you are a racist, but calling you that does not do this discourse any good. You have extreme prejudices. If you are ok with being a bigot fine.
If you think that, then that is your short coming, and makes you a racist/bigot of sorts. You seem more dangerous to me than anyone else here.
I have no prejudices, and I've spent a few threads clearing that up. Again, you resorting to name calling, so you must be wrong. You are just as bad as a Christian who condemns people to hell because they are sinning.
WTF?
Liberals call the cops more? Any evidence for this bit of weirdness?
Yes, in my situation. That wasn't a blanket statement.

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Message 210 of 404 (569303)
07-21-2010 10:44 AM
Reply to: Message 191 by Coyote
07-20-2010 9:11 PM


Re: You really need to think about what you write and be more clear
Others might consider NBC to be the worst.
Its all sensationalisim and NOT journalism...its all garbage. Opinionated idiots distracting Americans with their hyperbolic nonsense. None of it is good, honest journalism with factual information.
For that you would need to venture outside of the mianstream, corporate run news stations, especially those on American TV.
News stations shouldn't have ANY bias, left or right. But you can't find one in this country without one, and thier objective is to divide.
- Oni

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