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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 447 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
"Ringo" writes: Would you hire a plumber who can't see a problem or one who goes and looks to see if there is a problem? I am a plumber.There is two sides to that coin. Plenty of mechanics out there who find problems when there is none, and charge you for it. Those are the dishonest ones, like some people here. I want the honest plumber, who knows what he is doing, and only finds problems when one actually exists. Then fixes it for the right price.
It isn't about making anybody else happy. It's about self-examination, self-improvement. You're coming across as somebody who thinks he doesn't need any improvement in his attitudes. I don't want you to think that. I can only be as good as my intellect allows me to be. If there is anything in life that I have learned, is that there is always room to be wrong about stuff. As I read through this thread, I am examining myself, and I find nothing wrong, I'm doing the best I can with what I've got. If you could specifically point out something wrong, instead of just making empty blanket assertions, then I would be grateful. About the only thing that I learned, which I already knew is that people have different ways of expressing themselves, and while a comment I make may be fine here where I live, it may be taken wrong by someone else reading this forum. But that happens with just about everything. People can say whatever they want, what matters is what is on the inside. I am rough around the edges sometimes, and I think I've improved dramatically in that area. but just because someone is "edgy" does not make him/her a racists.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 447 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
"Dr.Adequate" writes: It's a federal offense to put mail in someone's mailbox? Sweet land of liberty, of thee I sing! YesPage not found - Mailboxes and Lockboxes
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 447 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
"Dr.Adequate" writes: Someone should call the FBI and have them arrest the kids. And, if possible, the puppies, I bet they were in on it somehow. Both small children and puppydogs have big cute eyes ... you can't trust people like that. You are driving, and come to a 4 way stop sign. There is a fire truck to your right, an ambulance in front of you, and a mail truck to your left. Who has the right of way?
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 447 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
"Ringo" writes: There may be two sides to the coin but you only answered the one I didn't ask. Here it is again: Would you rather hire a plumber who looks for a problem or one who doesn't? I did answer it, and I answered it perfectly. What do you not understand about my answer?
Newsflash! There's nothing wrong with riVeRraT. He's perfect in every way. why did you mine quote me? I never implied that. Use the whole quote next time please.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 447 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
"ringo" writes: I don't tell them I'm not a bigot. I try to figure out why I might seem to be a bigot. That was part of the purpose of this thread.
I tell them that I didn't mean to offend anybody and I try to figure out exactly what wording it was that caused offense. did that.
Then I rephrase what I said in another way to try to get my meaning across without causing misunderstanding or offense. been there done that too. so what is left after I explore all the options that I can find, trying to find fault within myself? If I can't find any, then I must explore the possibility that it is not me, and it is the other person. This thread is a perfect example. Some people understood me perfectly, and do not think I am a bigot/racist, while others didn't. After trying to re-explain myself, they still don't get it, what do you do? I mean even Jesus walked away sometimes. Just so you know, I have a handicap kid. It took me months to explain to him how many ounces are in a cup. So I am very familiar with explaining myself in different ways, and I have the patience to do it. It's what we do for handicap people
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 447 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
"DC85" writes: Indeed this is true It's amusing to me that he's implying that it's wrong.... Can you please explain to me how you came to false conclusion that I was implying that it was wrong? Another classic example jar, take notice, ringo too.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 447 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
"ringo" writes: Bullshit. Your standard response is, "I already answered that." Nobody should ever have to ask you where your answer is. As of late, with certain people only. DBlevins and I in the UFO thread just had a conversation where I reexplained myself for him, and he got it.
Rinse and repeat. The process is never finished. Your mistake is in thinking that ANYTHING you do is ever perfect. I would if certain people were sincere, and actually just weren't getting it, but that is not the case sometimes.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 447 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
"ringo" writes: What part of "nobody" did you misunderstand? Certain "nobody's" either have prejudice/reading comprehension problems/ or haven't even read the thread. Certain nobody's are not being sincere.
It isn't your business to decide whether somebody else is sincere. You were blaming everybody but yourself at the beginning of the thread and you don't seem to have learned much. Yes, it is my business to determine who is being sincere when they are calling me a racist. I did not blame everybody, maybe you should go back and read the first couple lines of post #1. You are really just barking up the wrong tree ringo. Edited by riVeRraT, : No reason given.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 447 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
"ringo" writes: You'll never know why people think you're a racist. Then I will never know why most people don't think I am a racist.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 447 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
"ringo" writes: You're doing it the hard way, though. You really don't have to start new topics to learn nothing. Ok ringo, enough BS. I've entertained your little game on this long enough. That was a dumb thing you just said. I mean it is pretty obvious why I started the topic. Throughout this topic, I just confirmed what I already thought to be true. It's not me who is a racist. It is other peoples short comings, and prejudices. (Not every one, just certain people). These certain people think I am racist, because they are the ones with the problems. In almost 6000 posts, I never once talked about race, or ever gave a single reason for any one here to think I was racist, or a bigot. Even you, have not given me one single reason why I would be considered a racist, or given me a single quote from any of my posts why I would be considered a racist. There is way too much assuming that goes on in this forum. I have also been called a racist (hardly ever) because that's what people do to win an argument. They deviate from the topic, and say something completely irrelevant, and put you down. They attack the person, instead of the issue. I am not, or have never been, or will ever be a racist. I've spent a good amount of my valuable time reading, and posting in this thread, and I haven't learned anything that I already didn't know. Except to be refreshed by a few peoples comments on the subject, and to have a few people tell me that they don't think I am a racist. I am not trying to be a know it all, nothing could be further from the truth if you think that. You are guilty of what other people here are guilty of. You assume too much, and you make leaps, then attack the person instead of the topic. The topic is racism, not riverrats learning curve. Maybe it's you that needs to learn something here. Your the one doing the finger pointing. Maybe you need to learn that people lie here, and make stuff up.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 447 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
I also don't want people to think that last statement of mine is an end-all to the subject. I remain open to ideas, and willing to learn. I am thankful for a good portion of comments, and discussions I've had throughout the years, and I have been educated by quite a few people here. I am grateful for the time they taken to explain things, or point out when I was wrong, without insulting. As I see it, I've been one of the very few people to ever admit he was wrong about something. You just don't see that here.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 447 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
"ringo" writes:
I don't think I've called you a racist. Ok, I never said you did.
I've called myself a bigot because I'm willing to admit that and try to improve myself. That's great. You are truly trying to be humble I suppose. As Christians we should be humble. I consider being humble equal with being open minded.But you can be overly humble too, which can lead (for lack of a better word) to a low self esteem. We are all racist to a point, I did admit that with onifire at one point in the thread. But acting on those impulses is what I avoid. It is a life principal, and moral that I live by.
All I've tried to do in this thread is help you understand why some people might think you're a racist. You're welcome. I don't think you have. You have only accused me of not being able to learn, and telling me that I think I perfect. You've gone on with that for quite a few posts. Of course the first step to recovery is admitting you have a problem, but that is not the problem here. If you have something of value to say, about why people would consider me a racist (because of something I did, or said) then say it. I always respect what you have to say. If you can't find anything, then you need to examine more closely why people do that, and you just might find that it is them, not me.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 447 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
"ringo" writes: Quoted for irony. There was no irony. The irony is: telling someone for 50 posts that THEY have a problem, without saying what the problem is.
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