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randman 
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Message 137 of 300 (275395)
01-03-2006 3:50 PM
Reply to: Message 132 by NosyNed
01-03-2006 2:30 PM


Re: Documentation
Since these people are willing to take the time to document such things, you might want to give them a call.
"Today my dentist examined my gold fillings I received during the Intercession Conference . This exam was to have this miracle confirmed medically, and it was! My dentist was so astounded by this miracle . He said, "I’ve never seen anything like this in my life." I asked him for his opinion and he said, "It is my opinion that this is a miracle."
Paulette - Ypsilanti, Michigan
In other cases, people checked their dental records and insurance forms and found that what was in their mouths reflected a change; however, they didn’t request the dentist’s written confirmation. The conflict in the record was enough evidence to satisfy them that a miracle had taken place as in the case below.
"Our pastor looked in the mirror and noticed that his white crown had turned to solid bright GOLD! He called his dentist to verify that it had been porcelain and the records proved it. He now has a 100% gold tooth!" James - Fort Worth, Texas
We appreciate the integrity of everyone who reported findings. We also noticed that after every avenue of confirmation was examined in those cases where dentists confirmed the changes, there was still the need to take that last leap of faith to believe that God had performed a sign and wonder and that no other dentist had been consulted. While we need to "provide things honest in the sight of all men" (Romans 12:17) and seek verification, in the end, we discovered that there is still no substitute for childlike faith.
(If you have obtained a written confirmation from your dentist that a sign or healing has been performed in your mouth, please contact TACF at (416) 674-8463.)
THEY GO FOR THE GOLD - Gold Dust and Gold Teeth Filling Miracles Claimed in Charismatic Churches: Updates

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Message 138 of 300 (275398)
01-03-2006 3:56 PM


a baby healed of Hepatitis C
On Sunday morning Paul and Elaine Morris of Cincinnati, Ohio testified holding their two-year-old daughter Rebekah. In September the Morrises had brought their daughter to TACF to receive prayer. Rebekah had been diagnosed at age 12 months with Hepatitis C, an incurable liver disease. Her mother reported that she had passed the disease on to her daughter during pregnancy.
After Rebekah received prayer, the Morrises returned home to Cincinnati. On October 26, 1998, they went back to the doctor to receive the results of tests taken on Rebekah after their trip to TACF. The doctor reported that there was no longer any trace of the Hepatitis C virus in her bloodstream and that she was completely healed.
THEY GO FOR THE GOLD - Gold Dust and Gold Teeth Filling Miracles Claimed in Charismatic Churches: Updates
Keep in mind that I do not personally vouch for these accounts. I can personally vouch for witnessing miracles in other settings, and in Toronto when I was there, but remember if you investigate these accounts that there are true miracles, true touches from God, and then fakes as well or people that want to believe so much, they think something changed when it did not. So you have to assess more than one story if you want to get a better picture of what occurred.
For me, I have seen miracles of such an undeniable nature, even in my own life, that doubt that they occur is not an issue.
I realize you and shraf doubt, but about the only way for you to deal with those doubts is for you to take the time and energy to look into this for yourself, not just the accounts that were fakes, but to talk with people and if possible look at records, of accounts that are true.

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Message 143 of 300 (276161)
01-05-2006 5:44 PM
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01-05-2006 7:29 AM


Re: found these interesting links
Shraf, the things I write to you about things I have seen in my own life have been checked. Obviously, if something is posted from the internet, I made a disclaimer on those that they are of similar types of things I have seen.
You can check into them if you want. There seems to be people willing to allow someone like you to check into the events to see if they happened. If you want to know, look up the people, call them, and do some research.
In all likelihood, you will find real miracles, but yes, people do get carried away and you can find some fake ones to or instances where people mistook something for a miracle.
If you just want to debate, then I suppose you won't take the time to research and investigate these claims.

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Message 145 of 300 (276171)
01-05-2006 6:03 PM
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01-05-2006 5:52 PM


Re: the Lord works in mysterious periodontic ways
I have seen regular tooth filled in and gold. I offer no explanation here, but there is surely a prophetic significance to it.
My reason for mentioning teeth miracles is that it is a little harder to dismiss than say, a tumor or cancer disappearing, since skeptics tend to think it's just coincidence.
Keep in mind I am not overly concerned with convincing you here. Not to be mean or anything, but in my experience, it can be a bit of a waste of time trying to convince skeptics of miracles no matter how incredible they are. I will just say that, imo, there are far, far more miracles happening now than in Bible times. If people don't want to believe, that's their business.
Those that want to know the truth can search for it and find it.
As far things I have seen, they include a massive number of miraculous things. I hesitate to mention them on a site like this, but they include everything from tumors disappearing and serious illnesses and injuries being healed to some trivial items as once oil being put into a car that had no oil in it.
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Message 186 of 300 (276933)
01-07-2006 11:33 PM
Reply to: Message 185 by macaroniandcheese
01-07-2006 11:28 PM


Re: Ghost limbs
brenna, take a step back though. If we begin to understand how the soul works, that does not mean the soul does not exist all of the sudden but would be more evidence of the soul.
To think of spiritual and supernatural as referencing things that can never be understood by definition is a major modern fallacy.
Imo, the fact you possess some foresight is indicative more than you have a spirit than soul, but that's because I think there is a major difference between the 2. The spirit can view beyond space-time if gifted to do so. Of course, your idea of a connection with your ancestors would be another explanation.

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Message 193 of 300 (276950)
01-07-2006 11:48 PM
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01-07-2006 11:37 PM


Re: Ghost limbs
But if our mind and imagination consist of more than our brain with our brain being a receptor of both input from the body and spirit, then our minds can comprehend spiritual things.

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Message 198 of 300 (276970)
01-08-2006 12:07 AM
Reply to: Message 196 by macaroniandcheese
01-08-2006 12:04 AM


Re: Ghost limbs
Sure, there is. First off, there are studies on NDEs when the brain is inactive.

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