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iano Member (Idle past 1972 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: |
Even the most rabid athiest will accept that God of the Bible could inf fact exist. They would also accept that Heaven and Hell of the Bible could in fact exist (for simplicities sake: Heaven is bliss, Hell ain't)
If you were to die a few minutes from now where do you think God would send you? And why do you think he would send you there. {Abe: changed "God of the Bible can well exist", to "God of the Bible could in fact exist" and "..Hell of the Bible can exist" to "...Hell of the Bible could in fact exist" Edited by iano, : No reason given.
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CK Member (Idle past 4158 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
quote: Well Hell I'd guess (using your understanding of the bible).
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iano Member (Idle past 1972 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: |
Why?
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CK Member (Idle past 4158 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
I commit blasphemy regularly, I live in an immoral and impure manner, I don't accept Jesus as my lord and Saviour, I don't believe in sin and therefore don't believe in the power of God to render judgment.
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iano Member (Idle past 1972 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: |
Cheers CK.
Right whose next: where and why there?
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iano Member (Idle past 1972 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: |
Cheers CK.
Right whose next: where and why there?
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NosyNed Member Posts: 9004 From: Canada Joined: |
I don't normally get into these kind of discussions but I'd go with CK for the same reason IF I accept the OP premises.
Do be aware however, Iano, that my reaction (and I suspect many of us) is exactly the same (and try to stretch and understand it is EXACTLY the same) as if you'd warned us about Santa Claus's good kids and bad kids list. Telling us not to misbehave or the boogy man will get us would produce exactly the same feeling. Mild amusement and a significant concern for your sanity. (just like any suggestion that you think you hear voices would)
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AnswersInGenitals Member (Idle past 182 days) Posts: 673 Joined: |
Iano writes: Even the most rabid athiest will accept that God of the Bible can well exist. They would also accept that Heaven and Hell of the Bible can exist (for simplicities sake: Heaven is bliss, Hell ain't) If you were to die a few minutes from now where do you think God would send you? And why do you think he would send you there. One thing that modern science has taught us is that if there is a god, he is an amazingly cleaver and inventive individual. The specters of galaxies, cosmic nebulas, elementary particle interactions, and life on earth as we know it leave us in awe. The suggestion that such a being would want to surround himself for all eternity with mumbling, chanting, genuflecting sycophants is just quite ridiculous. No, he would want to surround himself with bright, questioning, curious people who through their relentless search for knowledge and understanding of the wonders of the universe show their true appreciation for all that this god is capable of. People that challenge and analyze everything that they are told and will not accept doctrinaire and flaccid explanations on face value just because others accept them. People who are driven to think for themselves. Atheists! This does not mean that the religious are condemned to an eternity in hell. God is far to loving and merciful for that. He has set aside a special place in heaven with a very bright light at the end of a long tunnel and spiritual elevator music that continually fills the air. Here the religious, fallen to their knees in devout supplication, believe that they are perpetually in the presence of the one true god, and all those of different convictions are suffering eternal torment. They are in a state of bliss, and god, having positioned himself as far from them as heaven will allow, is also in a state of bliss as he and his cohort of atheist thinkers parse the infinite possibilities of his universe in enthralling discourse.
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Tusko Member (Idle past 132 days) Posts: 615 From: London, UK Joined: |
I think I prefer the idea of a good works Christian god than an "as long as you believe in me you're sorted" kind of a god. Even then I don't know if I do a fraction of the good works required. I certainly don't give all my worldly riches, such as they are, away very often. And I don't tend to lepers or anything. I volunteer at a local school in my lunchtime to play with nursery kids. Thats about it, apart from a couple of direct debits incurred by street chuggers.
If there is a Christian god, I hope that's enough to get me out of an eternity in Hell.
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subbie Member (Idle past 1285 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
Ditto what CK and Nosy said.
Here's one for you, mate: Paraphrasing:
Even the most rabid [Christian] will accept that [Allah] can well exist. They would also accept that Heaven and Hell of the [Q'uran] can exist (for simplicities sake: Heaven is bliss, Hell ain't) If you were to die a few minutes from now where do you think [Allah] would send you? And why do you think he would send you there. Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
If you were to die a few minutes from now where do you think God would send you? And why do you think he would send you there. Don't know. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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iceage  Suspended Member (Idle past 5946 days) Posts: 1024 From: Pacific Northwest Joined: |
AiG writes: One thing that modern science has taught us is that if there is a god, he is an amazingly cleaver and inventive individual. The specters of galaxies, cosmic nebulas, elementary particle interactions, and life on earth as we know it leave us in awe. Contrast with
Even the most rabid athiest will accept that God of the Bible can well exist. They would also accept that Heaven and Hell of the Bible can exist (for simplicities sake: Heaven is bliss, Hell ain't) I would say in view of the facts that God is as described in the Bible as zero. Edited by iceage, : No reason given.
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iceage  Suspended Member (Idle past 5946 days) Posts: 1024 From: Pacific Northwest Joined: |
duplicate post
Edited by AdminPhat, : duplicate post
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iceage  Suspended Member (Idle past 5946 days) Posts: 1024 From: Pacific Northwest Joined: |
Edited by AdminPhat, : triple post deleted
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Archer Opteryx Member (Idle past 3628 days) Posts: 1811 From: East Asia Joined: |
subbie paraphrases the OP: Even the most rabid [Christian] will accept that [Allah] can well exist. They would also accept that Heaven and Hell of the [Q'uran] can exist (for simplicities sake: Heaven is bliss, Hell ain't) If you were to die a few minutes from now where do you think [Allah] would send you? And why do you think he would send you there? An apt analogy. I would like to see a response from Iano. ___ Archer All species are transitional.
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