egotheistic pantheism revealed...

What if the religion simply says there are many paths to the gate?

No matter what the gate turns out to be, or if the religion even attempts to explain, deify, personify or create the gate, they don't exclude THE gate from being true?

Scottness writes:Btw, this thread is not about the definition of religion. it is about the fact that all belief systems; all philosophies; all religions; and reality, are exclusive.

Scottness writes:This thread is about the spiritual falseness of Panthesm in the Monistic sense as a warning to those flirting with it's deception. they know who they are, and they are absent from this discussion for a reason.

Btw, this thread is not about the definition of religion. it is about the fact that all belief systems; all philosophies; all religions; and reality, are exclusive.If you want to prove me wrong, then don't disagree, or you will prove me right.

So what is this thread about? Shouldn't you know?, you started it.

scottness writes:Btw, this thread is not about the definition of religion. it is about the fact that all belief systems; all philosophies; all religions; and reality, are exclusive.

This new age stuff you are talking about seems clearly egotheism that has come from a Hindu culture.

Stating fact or arguing with reason is not, by any means, necessarily egotheist or fear based in nature. However, the denial of fact, or the inability to accept a reasonable and logical argument is always motivated by ego and fear. Some claims demand serious attention because the implications are so inescapably enormous.That being said, the most offensive thing anyone could say to the fear and ego driven heart is, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except by me."That is the ultimate, staggering, and exclusive claim to sovereignty. It is also a completely reasonable statement. Even so, such a statement is either motivated by the purest form of ego, and/or, it intends to manipulate by the most blatant use of fear, or such a statement is the most selfless expression and profound truth that any man will ever hear. It is a claim that only God can make consistently.I believe that is why C.S. Lewis wrote the following:“I am trying here to prevent anyone saying the really foolish thing that people often say about Him: ”I’m ready to accept Jesus as a great moral teacher, but I don’t accept His claim to be God.’ That is the one thing we must not say. A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunatic”on a level with the man who says he is a poached egg”or else he would be the Devil of Hell. You must make your choice. Either this man was, and is, the Son of God: or else a madman or something worse. You can shut Him up for a fool, you can spit at Him and kill Him as a demon; or you can fall at His feet and call Him Lord and God. But let us not come with any patronizing nonsense about His being a great human teacher. He has not left that open to us. He did not intend to.”

scottness writes:I suppose it is about the definition of religion, but in only one aspect.

You tell me Anglagard... Does Spinoza consider his worldview to be exclusive?

Christianity can be right while Islam is right and Judaism is right and Hinduism is right and Taoism is right.

Tell me again, if there are pantheist christians, how is either exclusive? Why not just a slightly different explanation into which the other can be incorporated?

scottness writes:The point is, if they know the truth, then when presented with the Gospel, they will recognize Him.

scottness writes:I'm sure God wouldn't mind moderating his standards... they are awfully strict!

scottness writes:The Name of the Lord is many things to many languages.

scottness again writes:So once again truth is exclusive.

scottness writes:All philosophies and religions are exclusive... especially the pantheist ones.

scottness writes:The popular strain in the West (new age) doesn't necessarily say that all religions are right, but that all of them will lead to where the pantheists are

Reality may exclude any other reality...but are you saying all religions exclude reality?

But if Christianity is God's standard, how could it be reality and yet subject to moderation?