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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Faith, even if the Bible says homosexuality is a sin, it is still none of your business. If you believe it is a sin, don't practice it.
But whether or not it is a sin has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not gays should be allowed to get married. That too is simply none of your damn business.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Utter bullshit Faith and yet another example of misrepresentation and your desire for special treatment.
You don't have to live under some "social definition", if you don't want to consider gays married then you are free to your little opinion. It is no different than whether or not a previously married person who gets remarried is really married or not or if a Jew and a Christian or Roman Catholic and Protestant are really married.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Just in case you hadn't noticed, humans can make babies without being married.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Bullshit.
Did God marry Mary?Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Faith writes: You can probably even get us arrested for "hate speech" for our opinions. Have at it. In the US you will not be arrested for hate speech unless somehow Biblical Christians gain the power they used to have.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
They were not just allowed to continue polygamy, according to the Bible God even commanded it.
When Hagar left Abe acauseof Sara got in her face and dissed her, God stopped her and commanded she return to Abe.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
You really haven't read the Bible have you?
Genesis 16:
quote: And traditional marriage, even in the Bible, was a secular business contract. Edited by jar, : fix quote boxAnyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Not only was Christian Law NOT the law of the US, it was in fact unconstitutional to have "Christian Law" in the US.
The US has NEVER been a "Christian Nation", thank God.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
But again, she was sent back to be one of Abe's three wives.
God blessed Abe even though he was a polygamist. That was also true for most of the Patriarch and for other characters like King David. I misrepresented nothing. Hagar left. God sent her back. It really is that simple. Further, when a man bought a wife, whether it was the first wife or the thousandth wife, she left her family and went with him, just like the goats he bought, the camels he bought, the cattle he bought. They became one flesh. And the one flesh did not refer to procreation or having kids. Abe and Sara were husband and wife even though as you say, she was infertile. God didn't seem to have any problem with polygamy.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
How is Hagar not having more children (something we don't know anyway) a sign she was not one of Abe's wives?
Faith writes: Yes, God blessed many sinners, but they were still sinners, blessed because of their faith in God. Solomon was the worst but God blessed him greatly too. Yet God didn't just overlook the sin. It was only after Solomon's reign that the consequence of his sin came as judgment against the nation. So once again you try to sell an evil God who punishes others for sins they did not commit. Got it. And Hagar did go back to Abe. Sara was Abe's property.
Faith writes: One flesh is ultimately expressed in children but it exists without children. And what's the point you are making about wives and cattle? Abraham bought no wives. Where is that in scripture? Hagar was his wife's maidservant and it was his wife who gave her to him in order to have a child. Sorry but that is nothing but nonsense. One flesh is expressed in children even if there are no children? Bullshit. And you still have not shown a single example of God objecting to polygamy or suggesting monogamy or even objecting to screwing out of marriage.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
So Sara who was infertile and Hagar were both Abe's wives.
And as to wives being property I hope you don't want to claim that that is not how the Bible describes them or treats them? And you still have not shown a single example of God objecting to polygamy. And thank God we are moving towards Christian Gay Marriage and further and further away from Christian Law.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
I think it is certainly sufficient considering that no where in the Bible have I found God objecting to polygamy, and that is the point.
It is irrelevant to the topic though. God's views on marriage are totally irrelevant to the issue of same sex marriage in the US.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Faith writes: Lots of Christians now facing abuse of all sorts including very likely jail time. Only the criminals Faith. But don't criminals belong in jail?Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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As long as it makes you happy all is right with the world.
But don't pretend it is a matter of being a Christian because it it is not. That is simply a cheap trick to try to justify bigotry and hate. It is not Christians being sanctioned but bigoted criminals.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Not at all Faith, it is a matter of how people behave. When people break the laws they become criminals. When people behave in a bigoted manner they are rightly identified as bigots.
It is not a matter of naming or belief or speech but rather a matter of the individual's behavior.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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