Where should there be "The right to refuse service"?

Again, nobody is forcing them to close. They are choosing voluntarily to violate the conditions of their licenses, the same as if they were choosing voluntarily to keep a herd of pet cockroaches in the kitchen.

It doesn't matter why they choose to violate the conditions of their licenses. They could be obeying the pink elephants on the ceiling. The point is that it's their choice; nobody's forcing them to do anything. None.

Well, they'll be out of business for violating. In one case it's a health code; in the other case it's a human rights code. It makes no difference whether they are Christians or Muslims or atheists. They have no special rights to violate any code.

So leave God's justice to God. Let he who is without sin refuse to bake a cake.

Would YOU have second thoughts if it DIDN'T happen?Because it didn't happen yesterday, or the day before that or the day before that.... How many times does it have to NOT happen before YOU have second thoughts?

I've been hearing that all my life, not about gay marriage specifically but about Christians being persecuted. Yet the only persecution of Christians that you can point to is in places that are dominated by other religions, places where the persecution has always existed (and where the Christians aren't "True Christians" by your own definition anyway).Gay marriage is just the flavour of the month for you alarmists. It used to be Christians being persecuted for creationist beliefs. Before that it was something else. After gay marriage has been around for generations with no persecution of Christians, you'll find something else to complain about.

That's legal action against businesses that happen to be run by Christians. It's like prosecuting a Christian for murder - the Christianity isn't pertinent to the offense that the Christian committed. That's accusations of hate speech for preaching hate - i.e. for giving the hateful portions of the Bible precedence over the loving portions.

It's just bizarre that you can claim that a government totally dominated by Christians is passing laws that target Christians. Hate has always been hate. The definition we have always used is right in your Bible: doing unto others as you would have them do unto you is love; casting the first stone is hate. It's unfortunate that it took some of us millennia to understand that gay people are human beings and not something you scraped off your shoe.

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John 8:7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.

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Taking it upon yourself to punish sin - whether by killing people outright or by refusing them service - is sin.ABE: Refusing somebody service is not warning them of the consequences of sin. You can warn them while setting a good example as a loving Christian instead of a hating one.Edited by ringo, : Added reply to Faith's edit.

What an idiotic place to draw the line. You won't sell a cake but you'll walk a gay couple to the competition? God Himself will laugh you out of the Last Judgement for that one. You "participate" in sin in any number of ways. When you pay your taxes you're participating in everything your government does, such as giving its blessing to gay marriage - and Jesus told you specifically to pay your taxes.

No, I don't see any difference between robbing a bank and driving the getaway car. If it's wrong, aiding and abetting is wrong.It's good to see though that your instinct is to help the person; you have to make an effort to be hateful.

The right to hold office should be based on what a person does, not on what you think their religion preaches.You have a right not to vote for somebody because you don't like his religion or the colour of his socks. You do NOT have the right to impose your preference on everybody else by banning him from running.