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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1770 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
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Faith ![]() Suspended Member (Idle past 1770 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Now snark, insinuation and ad hominem.
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PaulK Member Posts: 18061 Joined: Member Rating: 5.0 |
Fact and justified suspicions. Thank you for providing further justification.
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bluegenes Member (Idle past 2803 days) Posts: 3119 From: U.K. Joined: |
Modulous writes: In the religious discrimination aspect of the case (which is the weakest part of the case), there is publicly available information that suggests animus against a particular religion and that members of this religion, almost all of whom are entirely blameless with no suspicion of being members of a terrorist organisation are being discriminated against without any balancing threat to life that could justify the act. Almost all? Entirely blameless? One survey showed that 36% of Muslims of student age in the U.K. supported the death sentence for ex-Muslims. You don't have to actually kill to terrorise others. Suddenly Faith, the author of this thread, looks like a religious liberal!
Modulous writes: Terrorism is not a religion. Indeed. But terrorizing others has been a very common religious practice throughout history. I suggest taking the ex-Muslims as refugees from Islam and banning the Muslims. Let in the oppressed, not the oppressors.
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Faith ![]() Suspended Member (Idle past 1770 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
bribe them all with his Jew Gold. This is slander, it's positively evil to insinuate such a thing. It's the new fascism of the Left, instead of racist slurs it's accusations of racism. It's just as evil and has just as much potential to generate violence against the hated class. Which we are seeing in all the anti-Trump violence. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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bluegenes Member (Idle past 2803 days) Posts: 3119 From: U.K. Joined:
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Faith, wouldn't you like to live in a society in which fornication is rare, homosexuality forbidden, and all the good old fashioned values are respected? If so, instead of bothering about Muslims migrating to the U.S., why don't you migrate to a Muslim country?
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Riggamortis Member (Idle past 296 days) Posts: 167 From: Australia Joined:
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I don't think he's accusing you of racism, he's mocking your inclination to believe everything is a conspiracy against you/Protestants/the US etc. That's how it reads to me anyway and your response only makes it funnier.
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jar Member (Idle past 165 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined:
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One of the big issues is that Faith as well as many others seem to be totally clueless what Fascism is.
Nothing in the post Faith was replying to suggested ultra-Nationalism, Corporatism or any other characteristic of Fascism. From Wikipedia:
quote: It is interesting to examine those characteristics in light of Faith's posts and today's USA. Is there a group that believes liberal democracy is obsolete? Is there in effect a one party system in the US where one party has control of the Judiciary, the Executive Branch and the Legislature? Is there someone who claims to be a strong, perhaps even Uuge, leader? Did the government say the plan is to forge national unity and maintain a stable and orderly society? Is the plan to advocate a mixed economy, with the principal goal of achieving autarky through protectionist and interventionist economic policies? And finally, is there a leader who has said that the US must strengthen it's military as a way to Make America Great Again? Perhaps Faith may learn what Fascism really is; and in the case of the US today, it is us.
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Stile Member (Idle past 369 days) Posts: 4295 From: Ontario, Canada Joined:
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bluegenes writes: Should I take that to mean that you strongly agree/disagree with him, and therefore his belief doesn't/does deserve your strongest support? No. It means that I strongly agree with him (or, at least, what I think he's saying) and therefore I strongly support his ability to hold such a belief. Supporting someone having a belief is not the same thing as supporting that same belief. I do not support the belief of the Flat Earth Society.I do not support the belief of the Neo-Nazi's. I do support the Flat Earth Society in their ability to hold their belief.I do support the Neo-Nazi's in their ability to hold their belief. I do not support the current actions of the Flat Earth Society that they take based upon their belief.I do not support the current actions of the Neo-Nazi's that they take based upon their belief. Let's take the "bolder" example a little further: Neo-Nazi Belief: White people are better than all other people.-I do not support this belief. -I do support the Neo-Nazi's ability to have this belief and profess it. Neo-Nazi Current actions: Kill all non-white people. Use policies or other "white collar" methods to harm non-white people.-I do not support these actions. Neo-Nazi Possible actions: Since white people are better, this Neo-Nazi group of white people is going to set an example for all others and build homes for all the homeless people, regardless of whether or not the homeless are black, white, or any other race.-I would support this action. -I would still not support their belief. -I would still support their ability to hold their belief. I hope that clears some things up?
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1731 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
GOP Celebrates Black History Month by approving a racist for AG and not allowing a letter from Loretta Scott King to be read.
Pathetic. So let's get this straight: if a senator is picked for any position that needs senate approval, it is not allowed to say anything detrimental to his qualifications even though that is the duty of the senate. So senators get preferential treatment that amounts to a free pass? Somehow I don't see how that is anywhere in the constitution. Does Sessions recuse himself from the vote? Rather a large conflict of interest imho. Sad.by our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1731 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Defeat people in war and you have to let them into your country to behead your citizens? Excuse me? How many Germans and Japanese have immigrated to the US since WWII?
quote: So only two beheadings of Americans from a "pro-Jihad, Islamist" in 2014 ... out of "3.3 million (1% of the U.S. population, 2016)" muslims in America You are more likely to be beheaded by an American (Jeffrey Dahmer, Danny Rolling), and you are way more likely to be killed by an American over some silly dispute (road-rage?) sadly. Fear is not reason. Enjoyby our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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Faith ![]() Suspended Member (Idle past 1770 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
RAZD, I find your reasoning to be extremely bizarre.
I myself was going to mention that after we defeated Germany and Japan we accepted many Germans and japanese into the country because we had no reason to fear that they would retaliate against us after they were here, as there is every reason to suppose Muslims would when they are in a position to do so -- which that video I posted was intended to show. Because Germany and Japan are civilized countries that are not ruled by a totalitarian ideology that seeks the death of people who disagree with it. They assimilate and become genuinely American. I know you are all in denial about it, but Muslims do not assimilate if they are true to their ideology, they form communities isolated from the culture they've entered, and wait until they have enough population to attempt a coup -- unless they have fallen away from their religion, and often it's hard to know because they then have to fear for their own lives. As for beheadings, accidents compared to murder by fanatics? What? Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith ![]() Suspended Member (Idle past 1770 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
From everything I've read Sessions has an excellent civil rights record. This accusation of racism is false.
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Faith ![]() Suspended Member (Idle past 1770 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
We're not clueless, jar, we are applying the MAIN characteristics of fascism where they belong, on the Left, rejecting the standard definition in terms of political ideology, which is falsely and viciously slung against American conservatives, who share none of that political ideology and certainly none of the totalitarianism that is characteristic of both fascism and today's Left.
Your attempt to pin fascism on Trump supporters or America in general is a vile lie, all of it. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith ![]() Suspended Member (Idle past 1770 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
There's nothing funny about insinuating that someone is anti-Semitic. If it had anything to do with conspiracy theories it would be applied to something I said that could be interpreted as a conspiracy theory. But then too it would be slander.
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Faith ![]() Suspended Member (Idle past 1770 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Why don't YOU go hang out in a Wahhabi Muslim enclave?
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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