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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
quote: Please provide evidence that I tell a lot of lies
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
quote: That is not evidence that I lie at all. When you ask for evidence I provide it.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
quote: Maybe. But what is actually written is quite clear.
quote: It would be extremely unusual to write Mary’s genealogy as if it were Joseph’s. In fact, so far as I know it is unheard of. As far as other interpretations go there is absolutely no feature of either genealogy that suggests that it is anything other than a simple patrilineal genealogy. (Other than the author of Matthew missing out names to get the counts he wants)
quote: Not through a patrilineal genealogy - at least part of it would have to be traced through the female line. Which wouldn’t count.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
quote: The evidence says otherwise.
quote: It’s not at all weird for humans to invent genealogies (do you really think that Julius Caesar was descended from the goddess Venus?)It would be extremely weird for the massive amounts of evidence otherwise to be so incredibly misleading. (If you think otherwise RAZD’s threads are there - just post your refutation) quote: No, that really isn’t true.
quote: Which show no sign of a worldwide flood.
quote: Looking at the evidence to properly evaluate it is hardly misappropriating it and refusing to see the evidence is not actually seeing. In reality the order of the fossil record - and I have to say the observed order because otherwise you’ll decide I meant something else - is quite inexplicable under the assumption of a flood. As we have seen. But you ignore that. But this post is fine evidence of your irrationality and prejudice.. Thanks for proving that I spoke the truth.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
quote: Mentioning a few of the mothers doesn’t change the fact that ancestry is traced down the male line. So no, it is simply patrilineal.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
quote: Making strange assertions is hardly worth it. Why can’t they be invented ?
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
quote: It is a massive fact which can’t be explained by the Flood.
quote: Aside from the fact that this is just your nutty opinions it is completely irrelevant. The order of the fossil record is an observed fact. Evolution doesn’t enter into that argument.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
quote: It doesn’t matter whether you consider it useless or not. The order of the fossil record is a major feature. Any viable explanation of the fossil record must account for it. The Flood explanation fails to do so. Even if your opinions about evolution were true it wouldn’t matter. But again thank you for proving me correct about you.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
quote: That is nonsense. The order is an observed fact. Again - since you seem to have missed it - I am talking of the observed order.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3
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quote: Then please produce this mechanical explanation. Because nobody else has been able to come up with one that explains the actual order. And you haven’t in previous discussions either.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
quote: Wrong on every count. The most important point is that we only need the life on Earth to change over time - Progressive Creation works as well for that as evolution.
quote: Since you have no viable explanation and since your arguments against evolution don’t work - and wouldn’t be sufficient even if they did - we can still say that the order of the fossil record is strong evidence against the claim the the Flood created the fossil record.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3
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quote: If you are happy to accept that my criticism was correct you can stop there. But if you aren’t then you obviously are interested in digging further. Either you do havel evidence that would justify the idea that sex with children was involved. or you don’t. And if you don’t I was right.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3
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So here’s the difference.
GDR and Faith agree that the Bible says that God ordered the killing of particular peoples. Which is, by definition, genocide. GDR and Faith agree that genocide is wrong and that God would not order it. GDR straightforwardly concludes that God did not give the orders. But Faith insists that God did give the orders but we have to pretend it isn’t genocide. Even though it absolutely clearly is.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
No. The OED definition is:
The deliberate killing of a large group of people, especially those of a particular nation or ethnic group.
Oxford English Dictionary Instead of denying that it is genocide you ought to be arguing that there is such a thing as justifiable genocide.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
No, the definition is not meant to define it as murder. The OED is not in the habit of missing out important parts of definitions.
There is no semantic mess. You are simply wrong. And refusing to admit it even in the face of clear evidence. You may note that Merriam-Webster also disagrees with you. And if you are interested in the criminal definition, so does the UN ABE
quote: Why not ? It is genocide and you claim it is justified. Edited by PaulK, : No reason given.
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