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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
The age of the Earth and Universe are as close to a fact as science can come. There is so much solid evidence and consilience to do it justice posting in a forum like this. Assuming you aren't familiar with that evidence, Radiometric Dating: A Christian Perspective is a good place to begin. That's far from all the evidence but it's a start.
I'll be glad to answer any reasonably specific questions you have. Edited by JonF, : No reason given.
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
I've provided and explained evidence for the mainstream view. You haven't posted any substantial response, but you have made positive claims. You said you would always provide evidence for your claims. We knew that was false when you wrote it, and we have seen that we were right. You're just making up BS as you go along. You are far too ignorant to have any useful or interesting discussion with you.
Bye-bye
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Even the Bible doesn't support that.
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
YOU still have no evidence that natural processes are the same yesterday to today.
We've got mountains of evidence that natural processes have not changed in the last 13-ish billion years. You have no idea what we do or do not have.
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Oklo reactor. About 1.7 billion years ago.
Not that you could understand it or address the implications for your beliefs.
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
No magic or strange coincidences. Just the same processes we see today acting just as we see today.
Producing a mix of isotopes that tell us it was 1.7 billion years ago. Of course your explanation for that is "magic", amirite?
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Sure. From Radiocarbon calibration curve spanning 0 to 50,000 years BP based on paired 230Th/234U/238U and 14C dates on pristine corals:
(click to make it larger). The green line is tree rings and the gray and half-gray squares are Cariaco Basin varves.
Synchronous Radiocarbon and Climate Shifts During the Last Deglaciation (May require free registatrion. Gray squares.)
14C Activity and Global Carbon Cycle Changes over the Past 50,000 Years(same free registration, half-gray squares).
The 12,460-Year Hohenheim Oak and Pine Tree-Ring Chronology from Central EuropeA Unique Annual Record for Radiocarbon Calibration and Paleoenvironment Reconstructions (green line tree rings). Enjoy.
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
I linked to the appropriate papers. Read them.
In the extraordinarily unlikely eventuality that you really want to understand dendrochronology, see http://www.pbs.org/...xperience-archaeology/dendrochronology and About Tree Rings | Laboratory of Tree-Ring Research. Edited by JonF, : No reason given. Edited by JonF, : No reason given. Edited by JonF, : No reason given.
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
You got what you asked for. I posted a relevant part and provided several links in support.
I suggest you start with the last two links in my message of this morning. I'll gladly discuss the subject in depth when and if you demonstrate sufficient knowledge to engage in a discussion
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
I gave you the relevant information.
Your different-in-the-past hallucination is not worthy of consideration. As I've pointed out and you've ignored, differences of the sort you need would have repercussions that would echo down the ages and be detectable today. We've looked. Those repercussions aren't there. We don't assume the past was the same. We know the past was the same , based on hundreds of measurements. There no reason to refer to those measurements in every paper. Edited by JonF, : No reason given.
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
The Constancy of Constants, Part 2
The author is a physicist. quote:
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
And we would see the repercussions of that change. In deep space and in the Solar System and on Earth. The partial list of items I posted covers all three of those places.
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
basis for tree ring dating is concluding a same nature in the past from the mountains of evidence.
Fixed it for you.
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
If the change was on earth we would not see it in deep space. If it was not this nature that changed, but a former nature, we would not see it.
Prove it (insofar as anything is proven in science). Repetition isn't proof.. I've supported my claims. You have no meaningful response.
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Nitpick: you mean years. Light-years are a measure of distance.
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