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Juvenissun Member (Idle past 1338 days) Posts: 332 Joined: |
Maybe not. But what I ask floodists is: How do you distinguish one big flood from lots of little floods? The evidence that we have is all we have to go on, so how does that evidence point to one big flood? Those erosional and depositional features will not exist long. We need to think about something larger and more permanent. The oceanic water and oceanic basins ARE the evidences. Edited by Juvenissun, : No reason given.
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Juvenissun Member (Idle past 1338 days) Posts: 332 Joined: |
Flood deposits are loose sediments, they will be quickly washed away.
Flood entrench channels will last longer. But they will also be eroded away within one million years or so. I am repeating what I said. There is no qualified question to push me say anything more than that. It is not what I don't say. It is what you don't ask. I am NOT going to give any more information which you do not understand.
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Juvenissun Member (Idle past 1338 days) Posts: 332 Joined: |
And they'll be deposited somewhere else. Then you will not recognize it as flood sediments.
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Juvenissun Member (Idle past 1338 days) Posts: 332 Joined: |
Why not? They're still deposited during the Flood. Sediments deposited during the global flood are no different from any sediments we can see in our normal environment. Gravel, sand, mud, etc. The only way to tell that they are flood sediments is to look at their depositional structure. So, once the original deposit is moved (eroded and redeposited), the original structure is destroyed. They can not be recognized as flood sediments any more (they become river sediments or lake sediments or marine sediments etc. ) I always try to answer genuine questions. Otherwise, may be not.
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Juvenissun Member (Idle past 1338 days) Posts: 332 Joined: |
They should be. They should be much more widespread than river sediments or lake sediments. Even if there is no single contiguous layer that covers the whole earth, there should be vast areas that are easily distinguishable from lake sediments and river sediments. No. They are normal material. Once relocated, they don't have any tag to show the origin. However, your idea is good. There might be something in the sediments which can be used as a tag of the global flood. We do not know what it is. But this thread may deserve some study. However, it is not likely to find any support for the project.
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Juvenissun Member (Idle past 1338 days) Posts: 332 Joined: |
Sure they do. The chemical composition will give clues to where they came from. A flood is not a magic eraser that removes all evidence. Think: where did those sediments come from? They were sediments on the ground BEFORE the Flood. Why would they be different from other sediments on the ground?
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Juvenissun Member (Idle past 1338 days) Posts: 332 Joined: |
They are normal sediments just like sediments laid down everywhere and every day.
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Juvenissun Member (Idle past 1338 days) Posts: 332 Joined: |
That doesn't seem likely. The amount of sediment depends on how much material was in the water, how much water there was and for how long, etc. The Bible Flood would have had vast amounts of material in vast amounts of water settling out for a long time. We would expect a very deep set of layers to form before the water receded. The receding water would erode the fesh sediment to some extent but not enough to remove all traces. It is quite amusing to see a layman's argument on geological process. How much sediments is available for deposition? They are in the same amount as the current soil on the surface. More precisely, they are the part of pebble, sand in the soil. The mud in the soil will suspend in water and be carried to the ocean and deposited in the ocean. So if you average out the amount of soil material and re-pave it on the surface, it would be much. May be a foot? How do I explain to you that loose sediments DO NOT stay on land for long (say, 100 years)? How about rain. Rain will easily wash them around and eroded them away, or redistribute them to river channel.
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Juvenissun Member (Idle past 1338 days) Posts: 332 Joined: |
How about, say, the State of Illinois? Nice, 200 foot deep topsoil that’s been there for at very least a couple of thousand years? You are talking nonsense, Juve. It is not likely to have that thick of soil (know why?). What you said should be the glacial deposit laid down about 5000 years ago. Not be ignorant again, I suggest you save your last sentence if you respond again.
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Juvenissun Member (Idle past 1338 days) Posts: 332 Joined: |
I live on a dry lake bed. The clay is up to 15 meters thick and has been there for thousands of years. That is good to know. Should be an exciting place.The mud accumulated in there because it is the lowest place in the region. And, if those mud was laid in the surrounding high ground before, then it was eroded into this dry lake. Then you will not be able to identify which lump of mud came from which direction. Like I said, if sediment was eroded, then it lost the identity of its depositional locality.
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Juvenissun Member (Idle past 1338 days) Posts: 332 Joined: |
You are stubborn.
Chemical composition of sediments are different everywhere. We do not know what does the chemical composition of the sediments look like during the global flood.
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Juvenissun Member (Idle past 1338 days) Posts: 332 Joined: |
Juvenissun writes: Chemical composition of sediments are different everywhere. Yes. That's what gives us clues about what comes from where. No. If you like to know why, then ask.
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Juvenissun Member (Idle past 1338 days) Posts: 332 Joined: |
very good. you do can use dictionary. great achievement.
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Juvenissun Member (Idle past 1338 days) Posts: 332 Joined: |
Since you don't seem to know what you're talking about, I don't see much point in asking you anything. If you have something to say, say it. No question, no answer.I am not begging you to understand.
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Juvenissun Member (Idle past 1338 days) Posts: 332 Joined: |
If you said something wrong, I will correct it.
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