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Faith 
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Message 1050 of 2370 (860075)
08-05-2019 12:25 PM
Reply to: Message 1049 by Percy
08-05-2019 12:19 PM


Re: Geological Column/ Time Scale is Over and Done With
Gulf of Mexico is not the same as the oceans, it shows many signs of having been formed after all the strata were laid down, and that would include the strata of the Cretaceous with its iridium layer. I see you asked some of these questions I've just answered. Yes it was part of the continent and not sea floor.

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Message 1053 of 2370 (860084)
08-05-2019 1:15 PM
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08-05-2019 12:41 PM


Re: Basics Faith, basics.
I know the geological column is only partial in any given location, that is a mistake I do not make, it's irrelevant to anything I've said.
There are no earlier tectonic disturbances, at the least it's a matter of interpretation but the cross section actually shows only one. The other disturbances are the result of that one tectonic movement.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Faith 
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Message 1054 of 2370 (860085)
08-05-2019 1:20 PM
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08-05-2019 12:30 PM


Re: Basics Faith, basics.
Leonardo got it wrong. Even a genius can get things wrong, his intellect was fallen like everybody else's. Nothing was "transported up a mountain." The clearly tectonically raised mountains were formed after all the strata with their fossils were in place.
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Faith 
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Message 1057 of 2370 (860089)
08-05-2019 1:32 PM
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08-05-2019 1:26 PM


Re: Basics Faith, basics.
If he'd known the mountain was originally where seashells would normally be found then I'd agree with him.

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Faith 
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Message 1068 of 2370 (860113)
08-05-2019 3:22 PM
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08-05-2019 2:49 PM


Re: Patchwork Quilt Geological Column/s
I know the geological column is only partial in any given location, that is a mistake I do not make, it's irrelevant to anything I've said.
So your massive world wide flood dances across the surface of the earth leaving one kind of deposit here, another kind there, some parts bare, several times around to make layer after layer after layer ... and yet they all seem to stack up in vertical layers in each area without being distributed helter-skelter around the world.
WHAT?
Why should the Flood produce perfection? Sometimes you all say it could produce only a jumble, and then when I agree it wouldn't produce perfect geological columns everywhere now you complain that it's not perfect.
The Flood didn't do any dancing and what do you mean by "several times around?" I picture the ocean rising up over the shore line of this ONE CONTINENT (that's all there was at the time) depositing a layer or part of a layer with each wave until the whole land area was under a great depth of water (I have no idea how deep since the layers would have added a lot to the land's depth), and there would be different sediments deposited on different parts of the continent, in some places the layer wouldn't be complete for lack of sufficient sediment and in others it would be far thicker than the rest of the same layer elsewhere. Why not? What makes you want perfection?
Fascinating.
and totally unworkable.
And of course you would know because you've seen a worldwide Flood.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Message 1070 of 2370 (860121)
08-05-2019 4:12 PM
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08-05-2019 2:37 PM


Re: Geological Column/ Time Scale is Over and Done With
No, the Gulf of Mexico is not sea floor. Produce a core from the Atlantic about halfway between the continent and the Atlantic ridge and see what you get.
The strata in the Gulf are the same as the strata on the continents although they only go as deep as the Jurassic and everything beneath that is not shown. The second image below at least shows "hard rock" beneath the Jurassic salt.
So I looked for the geological situation for the land area, Texas, and found the fourth image which shows that there is rock beneath the Jurassic there at least. Ordovician is labeled, and rock beneath that is shown though not labeled. So it would make sense that the same rock lies beneath the Jurassic in the Gulf though cores haven't gone that deep.
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Faith 
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Message 1072 of 2370 (860123)
08-05-2019 4:19 PM
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08-05-2019 3:39 PM


Re: Patchwork Quilt Geological Column/s
Nonsense. Water covering the entire planet to a great depth would do things you can't imagine with your local floods. The whole surface of the land would be so defaced just from the forty days and nights of rain it would be unrecognizable and then the strata piled on top of it would further erase any recognizable remains.
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Faith 
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Message 1073 of 2370 (860124)
08-05-2019 4:20 PM
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08-05-2019 4:18 PM


Re: Geological Column/ Time Scale is Over and Done With
The usual semantic putdown that is utterly meaningless. Why don't you just try to figure out why it's not sea floor and what I mean by that?

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Faith 
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Message 1078 of 2370 (860143)
08-05-2019 5:39 PM
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08-05-2019 5:32 PM


Re: Patchwork Quilt Geological Column/s
THE Flood DID produce layers and DID sort thngs as ew see them. "Floods" are something else entirely.
Where did I say all life would be destroyed before any layers were laid down? I can't have said that, I don't think it's true. By the time ALL the strata were laid down, yes.
Is WHAT "what we see?" I don't know what you mean.

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Faith 
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Message 1079 of 2370 (860144)
08-05-2019 5:41 PM
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08-05-2019 5:35 PM


Re: Geological Column/ Time Scale is Over and Done With
The Gulf was formed after the strata were deposited. It is not sea floor.

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Faith 
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Message 1080 of 2370 (860145)
08-05-2019 5:41 PM
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08-05-2019 5:35 PM


Re: Geological Column/ Time Scale is Over and Done With
It's only right to put in a little effort to understand what people are saying when it isn't immediately clear.

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Faith 
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Message 1085 of 2370 (860180)
08-05-2019 11:47 PM
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08-05-2019 8:17 PM


Re: What is a sea anyway?
There was no ocean in the Gulf of Mexico when the strata were laid down, all of them up through the Holocene. So it was not part of the oceans. It was formed later. The evidence is on the cross sections I posted. Strata would not be laid down IN the oceans but they were laid down in the Gulf so I concluce they were laid down before the Gulf formed.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Message 1086 of 2370 (860181)
08-05-2019 11:52 PM
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08-05-2019 1:44 PM


Re: Geological Column/ Time Scale is Over and Done With
I'm trying to explain how the strata that had to have started out horizontal, stacked vertically from Cambrian to Holocene, got turned on their side so that they are now soread along the island from left to right and the other part of their strata lie beneath the island in the same arrangement. If you have a better explanation for how that happened, lay it out.

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Faith 
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Message 1088 of 2370 (860183)
08-06-2019 12:17 AM
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08-05-2019 11:54 PM


Re: Geological Column/ Time Scale is Over and Done With
Jurassic through Holocene are not marine.

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Faith 
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Message 1090 of 2370 (860185)
08-06-2019 12:52 AM
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08-06-2019 12:41 AM


Re: Geological Column/ Time Scale is Over and Done With
Doesn't matter to me, you know, since they were all the result of the Flood.

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