should creationism be taught in schools?

not Snotty Bartfast? To answer the question:There is a clear overwhelming judicial precedent that the teaching of creationism is a definite presentation of one religious view and as such is inappropriate for a science class, as it violates the freedom of believers in {any\every} other {faith\belief\philosophy} including (but not limited to) LOTRism, apathyism, scientology, deadheadism, and boredism.There is no such {precedent\injunction} against teaching it in a comparative religion class where other theistic concepts on the beginning of {life, the universe and everything} (to continue the hitchhiker motif) can be given equal billing. This was actually tried in California, until FUNDIE¹ parents objected to their children being taught about heathen beliefs on a equal basis.I can also see a legitimate high school class on "Is it science?" where the particular failings of various concepts (creationism, Idism, velikovski-ism, etc) can be discussed and measured against the practice of science as a way of teaching kids the basics of what science really is and how it operates. But I don't think FUNDIEs would be happy with that either.Enjoy.

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¹- FUNDIE: Fundamentalists Under Numerous Delusions Involving Evolution

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excellent point. perhaps the course should be in middle school as an introduction to science.

yes the problem of which creation story to teach: Hindu, Buddhist, Shinto, American Indians (several), Greek, Roman, Egyptian, Norse, Sikh, Baha'i, Jain, Cao Dai, Rastafarian, Tenrikyo, Aztec, Confuscian, Taoist, Pagan, Bantu, other African (several), Zoroastrian, Deist, Mayan, Inca, Australian Aborigine, Weaver, Crocthor, Southern Cross and Beer, Oz, Gog\Agog, Hotentot, Nefruscan, Dirtechian, Vulcan, Romulan ...... have I left anybody out?

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absurdist reductionism is like that ...HAIL CROCTHOR the bringer of twist-off beer caps and triple ply toilet paper!!!

and a similar sticker in bibles?after all, it's just a concept ...

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I know of ones that wan't to remove "in god we trust" from money because they feel it is inappropriate.I know of religious people that are adament about maintaining the seperationyou could ask these people:
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why just atheist?why not any other faith? ... islam ?

I would look to schools in other nations to see the answer to that. It seems that most european schools are more difficult than american ones at many levels.perhaps if they were challenged in middle school they wouldn't be floundering at college.

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my point was they would likely know the answer to your question, seeing as that is their business.

money, not pledge

I want if off money and out of the pledge.the pledge should be restored to it's intended message (including equality) or be dropped all together (I think the founding fathers would be appalled at the idea - you either are a patriot or you are not, and no pledge will make a difference in that)it is a christian group that wants the "in god we trust" off of money because THEY feel it is innappropriate.

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Perhaps it is time to move away from textbooks?Information is more readily now than ever before. Sure, it is a jumble out there, but there is also good information buried in the morass: and perhaps what kids really need to fully move onto the "information highway" is {drivers ed} classes.Then we don't need to worry about a proliferation of ...
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Great: what is the theory involved, what is the supporting evidence that leads to the theory, what is the prediction of the theory that results in some different result from evolution so that it can be tested (falsified)?And if ID should be taught, then shouldn't we teach both sides of the design controversy?Enjoy.

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So you are advocating teaching something without any CLUE to whether there even IS any supporting evidence?What's your feeling about teaching astrology?Enjoy

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Sorry, it is a fact as well as a theory. Evolution is the change in hereditary traits in populations from generation to generation. This is observed every day. Speciation has also been observed. AiG even admits this. Do you know what "macroevolution" is? Really?Did you see Message 107? Or the earlier post addressed to you at Message 71?Enjoy

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