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Author Topic:   Age Correlations and An Old Earth, Version 2 No 1
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Message 1140 of 1498 (843825)
11-21-2018 2:33 PM
Reply to: Message 1135 by edge
11-21-2018 12:07 PM


Re: Correlation validation by Egyptian Chronology
No. If there was a major release of water (and other things it carried with it) that came from under the earth, and erupted violently, that also would be an impact. The results would be the same, stuff would get all over the world.
We should remember also that science really doesn't know what is in the inner earth. They are in no position to tell us what Ir would be like there. The claims they would make would be based on their foolish origin or earth theories.
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Message 1148 of 1498 (843918)
11-22-2018 6:15 PM
Reply to: Message 1147 by Pressie
11-22-2018 6:49 AM


Re: Correlation validation by Egyptian Chronology
Actually no fount of the deep has ever been studied in any way. Nice try.
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Message 1149 of 1498 (843919)
11-22-2018 6:17 PM
Reply to: Message 1141 by Tanypteryx
11-21-2018 2:49 PM


Re: Correlation validation by Egyptian Chronology
Your claims that the flood is fiction have no basis in reality or fact.
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Message 1150 of 1498 (843920)
11-22-2018 6:28 PM
Reply to: Message 1142 by AZPaul3
11-21-2018 3:57 PM


Re: Correlation validation by Egyptian Chronology
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We have seen the fountains of the deep open. We have studied to a very large extent the effects of these things from what they left behind. Yellowstone, Siberian Traps, look up large igneous provinces. We know what they look like.
A very foolish and inaccurate claim. The molten rock in India or elsewhere was not from a fountain of the deep.
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We also know of impact craters. All over this planet. We know, with a great deal of certainty, what scars these things leave behind
The so called scars you speak of would be similar in any violent impact either from below or above. If not, then specify exactly what you claim is unique to an impact from up to down!?
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we can quite easily tell their age
In your religious dream, yes. Not in real time.
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Remember, a big chunk of all life on Earth not just died but completely died out ... extinct ... no more of that kind ever again
Precisely what we expect in the flood, not only in your cooked up extinction fables.
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In none of this stuff has anyone ever recorded more than trace amounts of iridium. Certainly nothing in the range of what we find in the K-T boundary layer (I'm old. I get to still call it that.)
We have, however, seen those levels of iridium concentrations from the smaller chunks of space rock this planet seems to collect every now and again.
As discussed, science says iridium does come from space and also that is is found deep in the earth. Precisely where flood water came from!
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Yah, that mountain of space rock dug itself into us real deep while it, and all the surrounding crust, rock, water, everything exploded. Having rings of Earth's mangled mantel is not just possible, but, kinda required.
Yes...in either scenario, impact from below or above!

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Message 1151 of 1498 (843922)
11-22-2018 6:34 PM
Reply to: Message 1143 by vimesey
11-21-2018 4:54 PM


Re: Correlation validation by Egyptian Chronology
From your own link..
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"the results obtained from reflection seismology are usually not unique (more than one model adequately fits the data) and may be sensitive to relatively small errors in data collection, processing, or analysis. For these reasons, great care must be taken when interpreting the results of a reflection seismic survey.
..Reflection seismology is used extensively in a number of fields and its applications can be categorised into three groups,[14] each defined by their depth of investigation:
Near-surface applications — an application that aims to understand geology at depths of up to approximately 1 km, typically used for engineering and environmental surveys, as well as coal[15] and mineral exploration.[16] A more recently developed application for seismic reflection is for geothermal energy surveys,[17] although the depth of investigation can be up to 2 km deep in this case.[18]
Hydrocarbon exploration — used by the hydrocarbon industry to provide a high resolution map of acoustic impedance contrasts at depths of up to 10 km within the subsurface. This can be combined with seismic attribute analysis and other exploration geophysics tools and used to help geologists build a geological model of the area of interest.
Crustal studies — investigation into the structure and origin of the Earth's crust, through to the Moho discontinuity and beyond, at depths of up to 100 km."
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None of the applications even deal with the inner earth, only the surface (100 km or whatever) . So your point is off target/topic!
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Message 1152 of 1498 (843923)
11-22-2018 6:41 PM
Reply to: Message 1144 by AZPaul3
11-21-2018 5:26 PM


Re: Correlation validation by Egyptian Chronology
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So why should we ever assume patches of high concentrations of Iridium somewhere in the mantle or below when we have no reasons to base that assumption upon?
Why assume they were not there??
Science has no reasons either way.
I have reasons. The fact is it exists and had to come from somewhere. It came right at the time of the great extinction. This has the earmarks of the flood.
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everything we have ever seen from the fountains of the deep has had nothing but trace levels
You have NO idea whatsoever even what a fountain of the deep was! Stop with the insane claims you saw stuff pushed out of them!!
Hey, we do not know what is in the center of the earth. Maybe the water came from deeper than they think. As for space...the waters resided out beyond where the stars are that came to earth in the flood. This leaves a lot of room for the water picking up iridium!!!

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Message 1171 of 1498 (844034)
11-24-2018 2:50 PM
Reply to: Message 1153 by Tanypteryx
11-22-2018 9:57 PM


Re: Correlation validation by Egyptian Chronology
Just because science didn't know where to look, and misinterpreted what they did see, is no reason to diss the event.

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Message 1172 of 1498 (844035)
11-24-2018 2:52 PM
Reply to: Message 1156 by edge
11-22-2018 10:57 PM


Re: Correlation validation by Egyptian Chronology
You thought poor little science has the knowledge or ability to get the knowledge of how deep the fountains of the deep were?? Ha.
They are ignorant of such things. Woefully. Willingly. Gleefully. Totally.

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Message 1173 of 1498 (844036)
11-24-2018 2:54 PM
Reply to: Message 1154 by Tanypteryx
11-22-2018 10:06 PM


Re: Correlation validation by Egyptian Chronology
As explained, the flood was a time of great extinction, and a time when stuff reached the surface of the earth from both deep in the earth, and space (where science says iridium is to be found).
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Message 1174 of 1498 (844038)
11-24-2018 3:09 PM
Reply to: Message 1155 by AZPaul3
11-22-2018 10:55 PM


Evo demolition expert
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Deep fissures open in the crust of the planet and out explodes, gushes and oozes all manner of ejecta. Regardless of your personal self-serving definitions those are the only fountains of the deep we have ever experienced.
No one asked what you who lived many millennia after there even were fountains of the deep in existence experienced!!! You kidding? Besides, no one says the water brought up had to be limited to the depth of the crust!
Look at the evidence, it seems iridium was with the water, and how deep does science say that is? Ha (as if it had a clue)
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And you know this how? Centuries of study by thousands of experts, both amateur and professional, says you're wrong.
Truth may be a better approach to these issues.
Name ONE of your so called experts that studied any violent rupture of a fountain of the deep, or from a window of heaven!!!!!!!??
By the way, the even was thousands of years ago...not centuries.
Your claims are absolutely destroyed here.
quote:
I'm not such an expert, neither amateur nor professional.
Besides, you probably wouldn't understand or except the properties these experts cited, so I'm not going to waste my efforts on trying to educate a committed anti-intellectual.
Finally. You admit true ignorance. Then of course you follow it with a plea to believe real hard, because somewhere...in hiding apparently...there are experts who know. Hilarious.
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Funny how religious apologists try to use the term "religious" as an insult. Like you know being religious is being wrong.
Again, the science is quite rigorous. Not conducive to the simple-minded religionist.
I think of myself not as some mere apologist, but more of an evo demolition expert!
The point about you peddling beliefs as science, is that you do not offer your religion as such, but commit fraud.
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Except the Earth shows no signs of such flood, but, does show copious points of evidence that a big honking space mountain hit us hard causing an environmental calamity that lead, directly and indirectly, to the mass extinction of some 70% of all life in the ensuing millennia. Tens of thousands of years. Quite contrary to the narrative of your flud fable. I'm sure you can make up an unevidenced fantasy reason for this.
A big extinction is associated with the time of the impact...
Being caused by it is another matter! Whether even the impact was from below orn ot is not studied or apparently known!
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Iridium comes from space rocks in concentrations we find in the K-T boundary layer and iridium only comes from the Earth in trace amounts thousands of times less than what is in the K-T boundary layer. The iridium in the K-T boundary layer came from one rather largish space rock.
Since the flood water came from even deeper space, you are in no position to tell us how much iridium it brought also! No position at all.

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Message 1176 of 1498 (844041)
11-24-2018 3:22 PM
Reply to: Message 1157 by vimesey
11-22-2018 10:57 PM


Re: Correlation validation by Egyptian Chronology
For the most part, yes!
However, I happen to know my Friend that made the planet, and have details of the materials He uses in other projects. Material such as Gold and diamonds and rubies, and topaz and amethyst, and spiritual materials, and lapis lazuli, and emerald for example.
The model of the inner earth science offers has us living on fire and dirt in a fluke universe..etc etc.

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Message 1177 of 1498 (844045)
11-24-2018 3:33 PM
Reply to: Message 1160 by Pressie
11-23-2018 7:18 AM


Re: Correlation validation by Egyptian Chronology
looking at the article on your formation in wiki I see this
"The formation mechanisms of the chromitite seams in the Bushveld Igneous Complex are highly debated: numerous mechanisms have been proposed."
A simple conclusion would be to assume it was formed in the former nature. That would explain why they struggle to cook up explanations now!
The evidence mounts.

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Message 1178 of 1498 (844046)
11-24-2018 3:37 PM
Reply to: Message 1161 by edge
11-23-2018 11:23 AM


Re: Correlation validation by Egyptian Chronology
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For instance, we know that iridium is the second most dense natural element on earth and it would logically partition into the core of the earth during early stages of planet formation along with iron (which is instrumental in forming our magnetic field) and other heavy elements. The trend of increasing iridium content with depth in the earth suggests much higher concentrations in the core also."
So there is a trend to find more iridium deeper down. The evidence mounts.
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Message 1179 of 1498 (844048)
11-24-2018 3:39 PM
Reply to: Message 1175 by Tanypteryx
11-24-2018 3:15 PM


Re: Correlation validation by Egyptian Chronology
Iridium and the KT level for example...misinterpreted. Sullied by your religion.

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Message 1180 of 1498 (844049)
11-24-2018 3:42 PM
Reply to: Message 1162 by 14174dm
11-23-2018 11:25 AM


Re: Iiridium layer during flood
No? I thought it decreased as one got further from the (fount of the deep remnant?) in Yucatan?
Since there were phases to the flood, we also could expect it to be prevalent at a certain time!
Got any tough questions now?

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