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Author Topic:   Does prophecy support the Bible
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Message 31 of 191 (68390)
11-21-2003 4:04 PM
Reply to: Message 29 by keith63
11-21-2003 4:00 PM


keith63 writes:
So Columbus wasn't trying to sail around the world?
Maybe you should've read the link I supplied where it said in the opening paragraph:
quote:
When Christopher Columbus proposed to reach India by sailing west from Spain, he too knew that the Earth was round. India was the source of precious spices and other rare goods, but reaching it by sailing east was difficult, because Africa blocked the way. On a round globe, however, it should also be possible to reach India by sailing west, and this Columbus proposed to do (he wasn't the first one to suggest this...

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Dan Carroll
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Message 32 of 191 (68391)
11-21-2003 4:08 PM
Reply to: Message 22 by mike the wiz
11-21-2003 3:52 PM


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If beelzebub Dan stopped swinging his offensive flesh tool
???
I prefer to think of myself as less of a devil-type, and more of a John Constantine sorta' guy.

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Dan Carroll
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Message 33 of 191 (68393)
11-21-2003 4:10 PM
Reply to: Message 28 by keith63
11-21-2003 3:58 PM


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Based on your knowledge now.
Or I could have just taken note of the fact that bats don't freakin' lay eggs.

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Message 34 of 191 (68394)
11-21-2003 4:12 PM
Reply to: Message 22 by mike the wiz
11-21-2003 3:52 PM


It is 9.05 pm Mike, and you been spanked, what was that about, more of your 'humour'?
If beelzebub Dan stopped swinging his offensive flesh tool we could all narrate the proposition of nasty spammers.
Play nice now Mike please.
Brian.

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keith63
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Message 35 of 191 (68395)
11-21-2003 4:13 PM
Reply to: Message 30 by :æ:
11-21-2003 4:01 PM


You missed the rest of it. Just as we accomplish what was prophecy, the other prophecies are all coming true at the same time. There is nothing we could do to fulfill this. I didn't put all the suplies together to build the temple. Israel certainly wasn't strong enough to defeat its enemies in 1948 and 1967. Yet they are all happening at the same time.
Well I hate to leave but I'm off with the family for the weekend. Pick it up on Monday.

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Message 36 of 191 (68396)
11-21-2003 4:14 PM
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11-21-2003 4:12 PM


Do really think I meant harm?????????
Dan already knows my game

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Message 37 of 191 (68398)
11-21-2003 4:20 PM
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11-21-2003 4:14 PM


Of course I don't think you mean any harm, then again Torquemada thought he was doing good too!
It appeared that Dan had no idea what you were on about hence his '????', if it is a private joke, and I haven't got it, then I apologise.
AdminBrian.

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Message 38 of 191 (68399)
11-21-2003 4:21 PM
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11-21-2003 4:14 PM


quote:
Dan already knows my game
Yeah... it seems to revolve mainly around the seed of my lusty confusions, and my flesh tool.
I'm beginning to look at Mike kind of cock-eyed...
[This message has been edited by Dan Carroll, 11-21-2003]

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Message 39 of 191 (68400)
11-21-2003 4:22 PM
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11-21-2003 4:13 PM


keith63 writes:
You missed the rest of it. Just as we accomplish what was prophecy, the other prophecies are all coming true at the same time.
In fairness, I must reserve comment on these additional prophecies you wish to discuss since I cannot access any online Bible reference sites through my company's internet content filter. I've been working from memory up until now, and I'll need a chance to review the actual texts with context in a few translations.
Alas, it seems I'll have plenty of opportunity between now and Monday when we can resume.
Hope you have a lovely weekend, keith63!
(Sorta reminds me of the sheepdog and the coyote from Looney Tunes clocking out after a hard day's work trying to mercilessly thwart eachother)

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Message 40 of 191 (68401)
11-21-2003 4:24 PM
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11-21-2003 4:21 PM


sorry guys,
- I will shut up! and get back to my cage in the other topic

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Dan Carroll
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Message 41 of 191 (68402)
11-21-2003 4:25 PM
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11-21-2003 4:20 PM


quote:
It appeared that Dan had no idea what you were on about hence his '????', if it is a private joke, and I haven't got it, then I apologise.
Not a private joke exactly... Mike will just sort of randomly start accusing me of being the devil when a thread starts to get heated. I don't take it as a slam or anything, but it is a little confusing.

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Message 42 of 191 (68404)
11-21-2003 4:29 PM
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11-21-2003 4:25 PM


Ah I see, another son of Stan!
Welcome to the clan. LOL

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Dan Carroll
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Message 43 of 191 (68405)
11-21-2003 4:38 PM
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11-21-2003 4:29 PM


More a son of Jack.
And if that ain't the most obscure joke I can come up with, I dunno what is!

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Message 44 of 191 (68406)
11-21-2003 4:40 PM
Reply to: Message 29 by keith63
11-21-2003 4:00 PM


World round? Well, maybe not everyone. But those who disagreed with Columbus's plans knew it but they also had a pretty good idea of how big it was which meant that the ocean voyage that Columbus was planning was twice as long as he thought it was.
That turned out to be true but he lucked out by running into some unexpected land.

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JIM
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Message 45 of 191 (68424)
11-21-2003 5:39 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by keith63
11-21-2003 2:30 PM


Miraculous prediction, as in biblical prophecy, does not necessarily violate scientific law, but it does involve the acquiring of knowledge in a manner that has never been verified. Nor has science given us a theoretically sound framework to explain how such prophecy might reasonably occur. To the extent that mediums have been competently investigated, in the past as well as the present, the claim of miraculous prophecy has always proven false or unconvincing. Thus, we have neither the theoretical groundwork nor a single, proven example of miraculous prophecy.
We must ask which is more probable, that a few individuals in the Mideast had special powers during biblical times, men associated with a particular religious cult, or that the usual, faulty claims, lies, misunderstandings and later manipulations of history have occurred. Clearly, the odds are heavily in favor of the latter. Any proof of miraculous prophecy must be so strong, so extraordinary, as to make the latter the less likely case. Not only is such proof lacking, but in many cases we have good evidence that biblical "prophecies" were written down after the event in question! There is also good evidence that many of the events and characteristics attributed to Jesus have been lifted from the Old Testament by New Testament authors! Thus, it is hardly surprising that there are some parallels between the Old Testament and the Jesus story.
This jurisdiction goes for pretty much every prophecy in the Bible.

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