The Whole Jesus Thing

The paragraphs make it much easier.May I ask that you also add spaces between sentences too? Thanks.Is English not your native language? If so we'll leave any further criticisms.

spaces between sentances? lol! Sorry man! I didn't know this was a English college course. It has been a while since I have had one. And no I'm not going to spell check all of my words? Are you actually saying that this is a requirement for this board?Hey! maybe if you guys right some jsp,php,vbscript or javascript code you can produce an auto-editor online so none of us have to worry about that.And thanks for the compliments by the way!

Cctman,What I meant was that I don't believe the bible actually says that people will burn in hell for eternity.

Duplicate post deleted.This message has been edited by dpardo, 11-03-2004 05:08 PM

No, it's not a course in English and there is no forum requirement.We all make a variety of mistakes and/or typos.However, it is good general advice to watch the presenation of your ideas as well as the actual content. No one is immune to being subtlely influenced by a poor presentation and thinking worse of the presenter even if the ideas are very good. I don't worry about making some mistakes (and, for sure, don't even see them all ) but too many look sloppy and careless.Some people take the precaution of entering longer posts in a text processor of some sort. You can get an annoying "internal server error" just when you submit a lot of work. This can have the side effect of spell checking for you. I, obviously, rarely bother.In other words, no matter what is explicitly said -- spelling always counts. Just some advice.

oh OK... actually the Bible gives a perfectly clear description of hell in several different places. In Luke 16:22, Matthew 18:8, Matthew 25:46, Rev. 20:10Also, Matthew 25:46, Acts 4:21, 2 Peter 2:9, 1 John 4:18 all speak of punishment and in each case the Greek word is kolasis. Matthew 25:46 is therefore talking of eternal punishment.So yes, I do believe scripture is very clear about eternal hell.

sounds good even though I'm fat fingered and mispell constantly... thanks for the info!

Luke 16:22's story of Lazarus is an allegory.Matthew 18:8- that a fire may be called "everlasting" does not necessarily mean that someone would burn forever in it.Matthew 25:46 says: What does this mean? An everlasting punishment could be eternal separation from God simply by being destroyed.Revelation 20:10 says: This refers to the devil, the beast, and the false prophet.I have to break here but will continue.

Yup... I was right.Where do I pick up my $10 ?

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"In life, you have to face that some days you'll be the pigeon and some days you'll be the statue."

cool! I'll take that as a compliment. You see to tell a christian that they sound like other christians or the Bible's teachings is nothing other than a pretty big compliment. So thanks! you deserve your 10$ Can I pay you in euros? hehe!Now if only you do a little more reading you might just be a Biblical scholar...kidding of course!This message has been edited by cctman, 11-03-2004 09:42 PM

Isaiah 45:7:
"Who fashions light and creates darkness, who makes peace and creates evil, I am HaShem who does all this

If god is 'absolute good' why did he create evil.

Matthew 18:8- that a fire may be called "everlasting" does not necessarily mean that someone would burn forever in it.I'm not sure I understand what you are saying here... If you read the passage you can take it no other way than than eternal fire, or that you burn in hell for ever, ect; Its pretty clear.Luke 16:22's story of Lazarus is an allegory.Say what? no actually it's called a parable. And this is the parable of the Rich man and the Beggar which is very popular in christianity. Every time Jesus spoke of parables he used and refered to real world events to help people commonly relate to His message. A parable is a brief story that is true to life, comparing the point of commonality between two unlike things, given for the purpose of teaching spiritual truth. Jesus always referenced real world events when used parables.What does this mean? An everlasting punishment could be eternal separation from God simply by being destroyed.I'm not sure what your asking here...10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.This refers to the devil, the beast, and the false prophet.Yes, your right! And by this and other verses also speaking of eternal torment and hell, we can easily coorelate them together. They fit very clearly.

If god is 'absolute good' why did he create evil.The problem your identifying here is the different identities between human moral evil and what God does that appears evil but is not. If you remember He also flooded the earth eliminating all living creatures save Noah and His family. God stripped all evil from the earth and started fresh with Noah's family.By the way that verse actually is interpreted by the NIV as"I bring prosperity and create disaster; I the Lord, do all these things."And as shown above God can and has used His people to eliminate evil and pass judgement on evil nations throughout the OT.Matter of fact thats a good point you brought up. Because this is a clear indication that God is in control of all things and is indeed absolute and good. Now if He did nothing and never saved Noah and His family and they were slaughtered by evil people and He let the world cave in on itself then you might have a good point. But we see that God forgave and helped Noah's family because they repented of their sins and did what was good in the site of the Lord.This message has been edited by cctman, 11-03-2004 10:26 PM

actually, that is a very poor translation.Why don't you read it in the Hebrew?? Or, why don't you go to your local
Rabbi (non-messanic), and he will explain it to you.