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Message 12 of 300 (299762)
03-31-2006 9:14 AM


My Two Cents
My own view is that these are the types of concerns that having creationist moderators is supposed to address. The shared perspective between evolutionist and creationist moderators is supposed to make better fairness possible. A creationist should be able to post a complaint to General discussion of moderation procedures: The Consequtive Consecution Sequel and get a response from a creationist moderator. Faith posted, only evolutionist moderators responded. I think the creationist moderators should chime in.

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Message 81 of 300 (299906)
03-31-2006 6:04 PM
Reply to: Message 78 by Faith
03-31-2006 5:33 PM


Re: Let's discuss this Robin, Faith, Iano.
I suggest a cessation of the back and forth. The discussion board medium itself is responsible for many misunderstandings. Those interested in nailing down fault should just go and cool off for a while.
The goal is to try to understand each other's position. If Robinrohan can restate his/her position, then Jar can make a clear rebuttal.

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Message 123 of 300 (300232)
04-02-2006 9:47 AM
Reply to: Message 117 by randman
04-01-2006 9:03 PM


Re: reading problems?
randman writes:
In other words, practically speaking, you are not going to answer, neither here nor there?
I'm not sure why you believe popping into this thread with an issue from a different thread to begin haranguing Jar about it is appropriate, but it isn't. I have no opinion as to whether Jar is blameless or is the second coming of Goering concerning whatever it is you're talking about, but if you want to stay here then your behavior is extremely hard to understand for someone who just spent two weeks with suspended posting privileges.
If comments in the admin forum are any guide, the tolerance level for you is very low. Unless you begin exhibiting pristine behavior you'll soon be suspended again. If you believe Jar has committed violations that have been missed by moderators then there's a forum to bring this up, but pursuing your own vigilante justice will just earn you another absence.
California has a three strikes rule for criminals. We have nothing like that here, but on the other hand moderators do not approach each violation with amnesia. You already have a sorry history here. The more often someone is suspended, the easier it is for them to earn future suspensions because there's no uncertainty about whether the behavior is a pattern or not.
Suspensions are a pain for moderators right now because they require remembering to unsuspend someone. This problem is about to go away very soon. I can't give a precise date for the release of dBoard 2.0, but I've finished all the database work and am working my way rather quickly through a long list of minor bugs. One feature of dBoard 2.0 is the auto-unsuspend feature. When they suspend someone, moderators will select a time period that ranges from 1 hour to indefinite, with a default of one day. At the end of the time period the member is automatically unsuspended. This will turn suspension into a "Suspend him, forget him" process.

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Message 151 of 300 (300306)
04-02-2006 3:13 PM
Reply to: Message 132 by Faith
04-02-2006 12:47 PM


Re: its a big misunderstanding
Faith writes:
nwr quoting robinrohan writes:
The assertion "one cannot be a Christian and an evolutionist..."
This was never said on this thread...
Nwr is quoting Robinrohan's Message 124 from this very thread just 8 messages before your own and only a few hours ago. In other words, it *was* said on this thread. It is the clarification from Robinrohan that was hoped for. Please allow the discussion to continue.

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Message 155 of 300 (300318)
04-02-2006 3:51 PM
Reply to: Message 152 by Faith
04-02-2006 3:33 PM


Re: No it is not a misunderstanding
Faith writes:
I think RR should not have used nwr's phrasing, should NEVER allow that phrasing to stand...
Then you have a beef with RR. RR posted it, and nwr has every right to reply to it.
Faith writes:
If you want me to take it to the Moderation thread I will.
If you'd like to discuss moderator behavior then please take it to the moderation thread.

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Message 163 of 300 (300336)
04-02-2006 4:25 PM
Reply to: Message 162 by Faith
04-02-2006 4:15 PM


Re: its a big misunderstanding
Faith writes:
A brand new conundrum has been established by EvC. When a tree falls in the sight of all assembled, it still didn't happen and the very few who say it happened are called wrong. Weird. Happens over and over. Emperor's new clothes. Nice to have proved to myself that this is what is happening at least.
If you'd like to discuss the topic, please do so. If you're only here to critisize then please stop posting in this thread.

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Message 167 of 300 (300340)
04-02-2006 4:28 PM
Reply to: Message 165 by Faith
04-02-2006 4:27 PM


Re: its a big misunderstanding
Faith writes:
Idiots, the lot of you.
Your posting privileges in this forum have been suspended.

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Message 222 of 300 (300511)
04-03-2006 8:20 AM
Reply to: Message 181 by jar
04-02-2006 9:57 PM


Re: You can't keep ANY of your arguments straight.
jar writes:
But frankly, so far your posts have been like talking with a two year old. You can't stay on topic, you never acknowledge the posts I make, you simply return to your illogical assertions. Repeating the same old tired claims does not make them right.
I think it would be best to address the topic rather than give voice to your personal views of your opponents.

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