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Author Topic:   Believing it is not proving it
lfen
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Message 147 of 300 (300299)
04-02-2006 2:29 PM
Reply to: Message 142 by robinrohan
04-02-2006 1:13 PM


Re: I find your position illogical
If morality is subjective, it is meaningless.
Robin,
Would you give me a sense of how you understand "meaning" and "meaningless". I take "subjective" to apply to contexts, think Einstein's ideas on frames of reference and relativity. "meaning" is then a function in a context but signs, gestures, even values can easily function differently in different contexts and yet be valid in the context and hence meaningful.
My ultimate concept is non duality and that implies that subject and object is an illusory artifact of the ego process so ultimately I would deny that anything is objective or subjective because there is only All That Is and hence there is no object or subject so we can't even speak about objectivity or subjectivity.
lfen

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lfen
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Message 150 of 300 (300304)
04-02-2006 2:59 PM
Reply to: Message 141 by robinrohan
04-02-2006 1:08 PM


Re: Jar's other argument
That's a rather strange use of the word "perfect."
Perfection is a subjective judgement, a criteria that is chosen for differing reasons at differing times by different people. I suppose in mathematics it's possible to set up a definition of perfection but that is I suspect a consequence of the formal structure of mathematics.
lfen

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