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Author Topic:   Believing it is not proving it
Chiroptera
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Message 251 of 300 (300661)
04-03-2006 3:58 PM
Reply to: Message 248 by robinrohan
04-03-2006 3:06 PM


Re: You really don't understand logic at all do you?
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But with no God, they cannot possibly be objective.
Why not? What would it take for a system of morality to be objective?

"Religion is the best business to be in. It's the only one where the customers blame themselves for product failure."
-- Ellis Weiner (quoted on the NAiG message board)

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Chiroptera
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Message 255 of 300 (300934)
04-04-2006 4:37 PM
Reply to: Message 254 by robinrohan
04-04-2006 4:24 PM


Re: The Dilemma
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If moral rules are just ideas "decided on" by somebody or some group, then these rules are subjective, of no more significance than my preferring blue to green, the violation of which cannot possibly constitute "sin" in the theological sense.
Exactly. To some of us, this is why traditional Christian theology is problematic from the get-go. Traditional evangelical Christians cannot even explain what they mean by "objective morality", much less present a convincing argument that one might exist. As this is the basis of traditional evangelism, then this type of theology has a foundation built on sand. There is no need for further arguments that the traditional evangelical god exists or does not exist.
The other solution to this dilemma is to say that morality just means what God says it does. But this is the morality of the biggest person telling everyone else what to do; such a concept doesn't really square with what most people think when they consider right and wrong.

"Religion is the best business to be in. It's the only one where the customers blame themselves for product failure."
-- Ellis Weiner (quoted on the NAiG message board)

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