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Author Topic:   Believing it is not proving it
ReverendDG
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Message 105 of 300 (299961)
03-31-2006 11:49 PM
Reply to: Message 103 by Faith
03-31-2006 11:38 PM


Re: Silly indeed.
I'd like to post here if it is ok..
As usual you are just ignoring the entire discussion about this. Robin obviously did not mean it in the sense you mean it as he knows you claim to believe both. He meant that it is LOGICALLY impossible to accept evolution and be a Christian and that you are believing in both illogically.
then he needs to work on defining what he means, by christian, and evolution,etc
spiritual belief is not logical at all
That is correct and this too has been discussed to death on this thread and the previous two threads and your position on it is illogtical. And all you are doing is asserting, you are not dealing with any of the arguments anyone else has put forward on this, as you never do. Your argument is illogical and that has been shown.
i guess someone else saying that thier belief is absolute doesn't sit well with you then? doesn't that seem a bit.. hypocritical?
And Robin and others have answered you. It involves having a different definition of the terms, that's all. Robin defines the terms differently and his statement is correct.
yes, and RR's version is some obscure, strawman version of both christianity and evolution, he needs to define what he means, maybe then jar can understand him
Nevertheless they accept it illogically, because it is a contradiction.
its only a contradiction if you have standards that make it a contradiction, i'm thinking RR is setting it up to be one not that it really is one
Well, lots of Christians do. Your finding no conflict is hardly the standard.
maybe YEC's do but they arn't the majority or standard eather
So you claim. Your opinion is not the definitive opinion, and on the basis of Robin's definitions and my interpretations and many others, you hold your opinion illogically.
yes in your view, but the fact that jar holds differing views from your own kind of calls in a question of bias agenst him, i would say this about anyone though
But you refuse to address the arguments that have been put up against you. You are just repeating and asserting your same old stuff which is exactly what Robin was challenging.
i think robins argument is illogical, since he sets it up to be a contradiction

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ReverendDG
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Message 107 of 300 (299963)
03-31-2006 11:55 PM
Reply to: Message 106 by Phat
03-31-2006 11:50 PM


Re: Lookingglass Logic at EvC
Im not convinced that biological evolution is incompatible with Christianity
i think the idea that evolution rules out a god only works if you define christianity as only the YEC belief, evolution does rule out a YEC view, but hey god could use evolution, he can do anything he wants right?

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ReverendDG
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Message 170 of 300 (300349)
04-02-2006 5:23 PM
Reply to: Message 140 by jar
04-02-2006 1:06 PM


Re: I find your position illogical
Like I said before about robin's position, its all based on a strawman version of god not on what people believe in reality
his arguement over morals is kind of meaningless since we can't directly ask god why he does or does not do something
the problem i see is robin is playing god is good based on our morals, which is the common view of most of the fundi groups
when in reality god is Benevolent and not all good considering all the OT stuff
also RR are you sure you are a nilist? shouldn't you not care one way or another?
{Pointing out robinrohan's topic Non-belief and Nihilism. - Adminnemooseus}
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ReverendDG
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Message 193 of 300 (300420)
04-02-2006 11:18 PM
Reply to: Message 188 by robinrohan
04-02-2006 10:54 PM


Re: Well, nothing in there that has not been addressed by me in this thread.
why does he need to be all good i would say he is is benevelent, he doesn't show all that much goodness in the OT

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ReverendDG
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Message 220 of 300 (300464)
04-03-2006 1:30 AM
Reply to: Message 217 by robinrohan
04-03-2006 12:44 AM


Re: Silly indeed.
It's not a matter of "opinion." It's a matter of logic.
ok then why is it logical? Why is it logical that thier can only be one version of god? what authority do you base this on?
if its the bible, well that just kind of destroys the logic, since a text on the religion itself wouldn't be logical or unbias
it is all opinion, there is no logic involved just your strawman version of a god you don't believe in

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ReverendDG
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Message 295 of 300 (301776)
04-06-2006 8:58 PM
Reply to: Message 293 by robinrohan
04-06-2006 11:16 AM


Re: its a big misunderstanding
From a philosophical examination.
how? did you just one day come up with the idea that god can only be good? what led you to this conclusion? why not conclude that god is a bastard, or doesn't care? I mean dozens if not hundreds of people came to that conclusion over the years
the only way you could come up with the omni stuff is through the bible or christian teachings

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