Bible Question: What was the First Sin?

I don't know how much a tenner is worth, but I'm hoping it's more than the plane ticket I just bought to fly to Scotland to collect it.And just because I got the answer right does not mean that I agree with it. While God does not say anything to Adam about touching the apple, you cannot tell me that there isn't a good chance that he reiterated (rephrased or elaborated upon might be better here) his original command.Anyways, nice job on the topic. It adds a little fun. Everyone, whether they believe the creation story was true or not, could answer the question without having to compromise their beliefs.

Yes, it was meant as a bit of fun and not an attempt to undermine anyone's belief, I am glad you saw it the way it was meant.CheersBrian.

I realize that the prize has already been awarded, but isn't there a sin before that?That is:Genesis 2:25: And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.Considering that the first thing that Adam and Eve do when they eat from the Tree of Knowledge is panic not over the fact that they just ate from the Tree of Knowledge but rather over the fact that they are naked, it would appear that going naked is a sin.Thus, the first sin mentioned was going without clothes.------------------
Rrhain
WWJD? JWRTFM!

HI,A good point, and maybe deserving of a consolation prize.But I maybe got an earlier one! LOLLook at Genesis 2:18: The LORD God said, "It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him."An omniscient God would know that it was a bad thing to create a lone man. So God deliberately done a bad thing, so God sinned!It is like two kids in a classroom, Yahweh and Satan, Yahweh gets caught doing something bad by the teacher and immediately blames Satan! 'It wasn't me it was that tall, thin kid that eats dirt all the time.'So God sins first and then blames everyone except himself, and he gets away with it! Neat trick.BrianPS. you can have a haggis as a consolation prize.

No, the sin would be being ashamed of their nakedness, which came after the tree incident.

Actually your all wrong.Eve taking the fruit was first,Also, the serpant was a false witness or 'liar' suggesting they would benefit from taking the fruit. So the serpant brought the evil and Adam and Eve were tempted. I am guessing I will be hung, drawn and quartered for having this opinion, but thats all it is really.Brian am I correct or am I interpreting again?lol
will I recieve a five page retort from Rhain.lol[This message has been edited by mike the wiz, 08-29-2003]

Hi Mike,Well when I was a Christian the tradtional view was that Eve sinned first.We only know for sure about God telling Adam not to eat the fruit, because that happened in Genesis 2:15-17The LORD God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it. 16 And the LORD God commanded the man, "You are free to eat from any tree in the garden but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die.It wasnt until 2:18 The LORD God said, "It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him that Eve was created, so either God or Adam must have told her because in Genesis 3:2 The woman said to the serpent, "We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, but God did say, 'You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.' So Eve was in possession of the very same information as God had given to Adam.Genesis 3:6 is the important verse: When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it. So you can see that Eve disobeyed God first. The view that I had when I was a Christian was that when Eve was 'desriable for gaining wisdom' she actually longed to be like God, and that was sinful too. But purely on a 'who ate the fruit first' question, then it was undoubtedly Eve. A further burden of guilt is on her because Adam only ate the fruit after Eve offered it to him.I suppose you could argue that your interpretation is correct, but it isn't one that I would necessarily agree with as being an accurate reading of the text.Brian.

Fair enough, I just thought I would provoke Rhain, as he seems to enjoy this topic.'Well when I was a Christian the tradtional view was that Eve sinned first.'Its hard to believe you were christian once, am I right in guessing you de-converted.lol

LOL, well you could say that!Yeah, I was a Christian until I was about 20, but it wasnt an overnight decision to reject it. It probably took me 5 or 6 years to finally decide that it wasn't for me anymore. I had my doubts when my mother died suddenly when I was 14, she was an absolute angel, and I wondered why God allowed her to suffer so much pain before she died.That was the first doubt that I had, and other things happened that made me question more. Finally, after my dad died a few year later, I decided that it wasnt for me. Obviously it was a lot more complex than just these few facts, but I was once as convinced as anyone I have met that I was a Christian. I do accept that by some people's defintions I may not have been a Christian, but the important thing for me was that I accepted that Jesus died for my sins and that the blood he spilled on Calvary opened the way for me to return to the Father.I had many good times as a Christian, but deep down inside me I just know that it isn't true.I know I come across as intolerant of Christianity at times, but that isn't always in reaction to the faith itself, what I dont like is not Christianity per se, but 'Christians' who condemn everyone they meet, and believe that they are much more moral than everyone else.Brian.

'I know I come across as intolerant of Christianity at times, but that isn't always in reaction to the faith itself, what I dont like is not Christianity per se, but 'Christians' who condemn everyone they meet, and believe that they are much more moral than everyone else.'I also sometimes dislike what christians say. I am a follower of Christ , I dont call myself christian becuse of things like, church, hypocrites, e.t.c I just believe in God. (i think you know my position)'I had my doubts when my mother died suddenly when I was 14, she was an absolute angel, and I wondered why God allowed her to suffer so much pain before she died.'Well, I am sorry about that and something that significant can't really be countered at the e.v.c'I had many good times as a Christian, but deep down inside me I just know that it isn't true.'Its odd, isn't it, your 100% that it isn't true and I am 100% that it is. I guess it really does come down to belief.

Adam and Eve from where I am a standing Never sinned. If you don't know what Good and Evil are you can't sin. so ding ding ding! I win there was no sinOh yeah sorry mike I didn't direct this at you(I pressed the wrong reply)[This message has been edited by DC85, 08-29-2003]

Hi,I think a sin is a sin whether you know you are committing it or not. I agree though that the dice(die) were loaded.Brian

sin takes thought. you need to think Evil thoughts and Know you are doing evil for it to be a sin. If they didn't know what good and Evil was . then they didn't know God was good so why should they obey? If you ask me God was pretty Stupid and Unjust Yet another Example of the Evil God[This message has been edited by DC85, 08-29-2003]

So how do we know that Adam wasn't the one who told Eve they couldn't touch it? How do we know that God didn't later tell Adam that they couldn't touch it?It's obvious the Bible is not a minute by minute accounting of the Garden of Eden, so I'm going to have to withold my agreement on the first sin as Eve lying. lol I still think the first sin was when Eve desired to be like god.

Eve didn't know any better