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Coragyps
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Message 2 of 312 (52519)
08-27-2003 4:03 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Brian
08-27-2003 12:57 PM


Adam eating the fruit that Eve gave him?

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Coragyps
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Message 122 of 312 (391140)
03-23-2007 5:07 PM
Reply to: Message 120 by Mikael Fivel
03-23-2007 4:48 PM


Hello, Mikael, and welcome!
her converstion with the serpent clearly states that she KNEW that God told her NOT to touch OR eat of the fruit.
You are mistaken: Eve is not reported to have ever had that conversation with God. Adam did before his "helpmeet" was even created. And, additionally, if you "have no knowledge of good and evil" how do you know whether to trust a man-like creature more than a walking snake?
Gen 2:15 The LORD God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it. 16 And the LORD God commanded the man, "You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; 17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die."
18 The LORD God said, "It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him."

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Coragyps
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Message 124 of 312 (391144)
03-23-2007 5:14 PM
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03-23-2007 5:07 PM


and we know that there are two types of death
Who is this "we" that know that? I'm aware of people ceasing to breathe, their hearts stopping, and the voltages between their synapses going to zero, but not of other kinds of death other than purely poetic.
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Coragyps
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Message 127 of 312 (391150)
03-23-2007 5:29 PM
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03-23-2007 5:18 PM


I can quote the Bible, too, y'know:
Numbers 31:17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.
Your belief that the book has some special meaning makes little impression on me.
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Coragyps
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Message 129 of 312 (391156)
03-23-2007 5:50 PM
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03-23-2007 5:34 PM


And you, Mikael, are quoting passages written at least 800 years after the one you are tring to explain, and written by a person from an hugely altered cultural setting. The guys that wrote Genesis or Leviticus did not see religion in the same way the various guys who get called "Paul" did. (Nor did the various "Pauls," for that matter.)
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