Bible Question: What was the First Sin?

What was the first sin committed by a human in the Bible?A clue: It is in the third chapter of Genesis.First to answer correctly wins 10!!, but you need to come to Scotland to collect it.One rule, my panel of experts will judge if your answer is correct. I am not at liberty to reveal who these experts are.Thank you please!Brian.

Nope, good guess.You have two lives left!Cheers.I am glad the first answer was incorrect

Ooooooooh, so close, but no!Thought you had it there.Brian.

Still two lives left, and I will even let you off with this incorrect guess.You are getting close, but it happens before she goes anywhere near the tree!Brian.

Oooooooooooooh, close again!But no!Two lives left.Someone better get this before A_Christian comes back! lolBrian.

Congratulations!You have won a tenner, next time you are in Scotland you can collect it!The first sin was when Eve lied to the serpent. God had said nothing about touching the tree, so she lied.The serpent has only asked her a simple question and she lied in her response, so sin was in the world before the serpent tempted anyone!God's 'perfect' creation is a natural liar, amazing!Brian.

HI,The Midrash says that this exaggeration was what led to the woman's fall.I will be posting a commentary in response to a request from Holmes in about half an hour if you want to follow it up.Brian.

Yes, it was meant as a bit of fun and not an attempt to undermine anyone's belief, I am glad you saw it the way it was meant.CheersBrian.

HI,A good point, and maybe deserving of a consolation prize.But I maybe got an earlier one! LOLLook at Genesis 2:18: The LORD God said, "It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him."An omniscient God would know that it was a bad thing to create a lone man. So God deliberately done a bad thing, so God sinned!It is like two kids in a classroom, Yahweh and Satan, Yahweh gets caught doing something bad by the teacher and immediately blames Satan! 'It wasn't me it was that tall, thin kid that eats dirt all the time.'So God sins first and then blames everyone except himself, and he gets away with it! Neat trick.BrianPS. you can have a haggis as a consolation prize.

Hi Mike,Well when I was a Christian the tradtional view was that Eve sinned first.We only know for sure about God telling Adam not to eat the fruit, because that happened in Genesis 2:15-17The LORD God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it. 16 And the LORD God commanded the man, "You are free to eat from any tree in the garden but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die.It wasnt until 2:18 The LORD God said, "It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him that Eve was created, so either God or Adam must have told her because in Genesis 3:2 The woman said to the serpent, "We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, but God did say, 'You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.' So Eve was in possession of the very same information as God had given to Adam.Genesis 3:6 is the important verse: When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it. So you can see that Eve disobeyed God first. The view that I had when I was a Christian was that when Eve was 'desriable for gaining wisdom' she actually longed to be like God, and that was sinful too. But purely on a 'who ate the fruit first' question, then it was undoubtedly Eve. A further burden of guilt is on her because Adam only ate the fruit after Eve offered it to him.I suppose you could argue that your interpretation is correct, but it isn't one that I would necessarily agree with as being an accurate reading of the text.Brian.

LOL, well you could say that!Yeah, I was a Christian until I was about 20, but it wasnt an overnight decision to reject it. It probably took me 5 or 6 years to finally decide that it wasn't for me anymore. I had my doubts when my mother died suddenly when I was 14, she was an absolute angel, and I wondered why God allowed her to suffer so much pain before she died.That was the first doubt that I had, and other things happened that made me question more. Finally, after my dad died a few year later, I decided that it wasnt for me. Obviously it was a lot more complex than just these few facts, but I was once as convinced as anyone I have met that I was a Christian. I do accept that by some people's defintions I may not have been a Christian, but the important thing for me was that I accepted that Jesus died for my sins and that the blood he spilled on Calvary opened the way for me to return to the Father.I had many good times as a Christian, but deep down inside me I just know that it isn't true.I know I come across as intolerant of Christianity at times, but that isn't always in reaction to the faith itself, what I dont like is not Christianity per se, but 'Christians' who condemn everyone they meet, and believe that they are much more moral than everyone else.Brian.

Hi,I think a sin is a sin whether you know you are committing it or not. I agree though that the dice(die) were loaded.Brian

I dont think ignorance is an excuse!In fact it cant be, as you pointed out, Adam and Eve were ignorant about good and evil, they were still punished for doing an evil act.Theres a logical error in your thinking.You say that sin takes thought, you need to think evil to know you are doing it.But, Adam and Eve didn't know what evil was, yet they still sinned and were punished for it, we are all potentially punished for it.Therefore, because God punished Adam and Eve for sinning, and they didn't know what evil was, then God obviously doesn't take ignorance as an excuse.But the Good News is, Jesus can take away your sin, he died for us all on that Cross on Calvary, his blood shall cleanse your filthy evil body! Yikes, throwback to a previous life! LOLI do agree with you however, to any outsider looking in, or really to any semi-objective person, the whole myth of Adam and Eve sinning is so internally flawed that I really think a 12 year old child could deconstruct it and prove that it is nonsense.Brian.

Hiya, You are basing this on what, the same limited sources as I base my argument on! LOLHow do you know that Adam didnt desire to be like God before Eve was created, Adam was first to see how wonderfully powerful God was, therefore, perhaps Adam was first to desire to be like God?I obivously agree that the Bible can only give us so much information, but my claim that Eve lied is in the Bible, it was important enough for God's messengers to record in his Book!Brian

Hi,Well we all know it is bunk! LOLThe story of Adam and Eve isn't meant to be taken literally, it is just a story to explain why there is so much evil and nastiness in the world. The ancient Israelites couldn't blame God for the evil in the world so they had to think up a story to explain it.The authors were writing in a part of the world where the concept of a 'Golden Age' was well established in the beliefs of the people. The Israelites had to explain how their particular Golden Age came to an end. Why didn't humans and the Gods mingle and dance and sing together anymore, well it HAD to be man's fault didn't it?The Hebrew Bible is an amazing collection of books, no ancient literature come close to challenging it, but to take it literally is a mistake, it wasn't written as an accurate account of anything.Brian.