Where should there be "The right to refuse service"?

Where did God say "Don't bake a cake for a same sex wedding?"AbE: I think a relevant passage that shows how the God character in the Bible would view the issue of baking a cake for a same sex marriage can be found in 2 Kings 5:

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15 And he returned to the man of God, he and all his company, and came, and stood before him: and he said, Behold, now I know that there is no God in all the earth, but in Israel: now therefore, I pray thee, take a blessing of thy servant.

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16 But he said, As the Lord liveth, before whom I stand, I will receive none. And he urged him to take it; but he refused.

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17 And Naaman said, Shall there not then, I pray thee, be given to thy servant two mules' burden of earth? for thy servant will henceforth offer neither burnt offering nor sacrifice unto other gods, but unto the Lord.

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18 In this thing the Lord pardon thy servant, that when my master goeth into the house of Rimmon to worship there, and he leaneth on my hand, and I bow myself in the house of Rimmon: when I bow down myself in the house of Rimmon, the Lord pardon thy servant in this thing.

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19 And he said unto him, Go in peace. So he departed from him a little way.

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Here, Naaman says that he will only worship the Israeli deity but since he lives and is the servant of a man who worships a different deity asks if it would be acceptable for Naaman to accompany his master, to aid his master and to even bow down in the temple of the other deity and the response is "Sure, go in peace".It seems that God thinks courtesy. faithfulness and good manners are more important than refusing service to others.Edited by jar, : see AbE:

I seriously doubt that the Supreme Court will mandate that anyone marry someone of the same sex so I see no way that any ruling from the Supreme Court could be an issue to any honest Christian.

No one would be criminalized for preaching what they think the Bible or Koran or any other similar collection says. That is just nonsense. In the US the right to preach bigotry is protected.There is nothing in the Bible that says Christians shouldn't bake cakes for a same sex wedding and if some group tries to claim they have some special right to not bake cakes for a same sex marriage and that breaks a law then of course they would be behaving as criminals.I will re-post what it says in 2 Kings 5 to help you.I think a relevant passage that shows how the God character in the Bible would view the issue of baking a cake for a same sex marriage can be found in 2 Kings 5:

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15 And he returned to the man of God, he and all his company, and came, and stood before him: and he said, Behold, now I know that there is no God in all the earth, but in Israel: now therefore, I pray thee, take a blessing of thy servant.

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16 But he said, As the Lord liveth, before whom I stand, I will receive none. And he urged him to take it; but he refused.

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17 And Naaman said, Shall there not then, I pray thee, be given to thy servant two mules' burden of earth? for thy servant will henceforth offer neither burnt offering nor sacrifice unto other gods, but unto the Lord.

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18 In this thing the Lord pardon thy servant, that when my master goeth into the house of Rimmon to worship there, and he leaneth on my hand, and I bow myself in the house of Rimmon: when I bow down myself in the house of Rimmon, the Lord pardon thy servant in this thing.

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19 And he said unto him, Go in peace. So he departed from him a little way.

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Here, Naaman says that he will only worship the Israeli deity but since he lives and is the servant of a man who worships a different deity asks if it would be acceptable for Naaman to accompany his master, to aid his master and to even bow down in the temple of the other deity and the response is "Sure, go in peace".It seems that God thinks courtesy, faithfulness to fellow humans and good manners are more important than refusing service to others even when that service is contrary to God's word.

In addition there is the absurdity of claiming Roman Catholics persecute Christians. Roman Catholics definitely are Christians and there has been a long history of Christian vs Christian persecutions.

And you actually believe even one word of that?AbE: In addition, even if it was true what does that have to do with the topic of this thread or the US?Roman Catholics are still Christians and no different than you and your Chapter of Club Christian or should I post what you have said should be done with Roman Catholics in the US?No one doubts that there are religious bigots in both camps.Edited by jar, : see AbE:

There are no examples in today's United States of anyone being criminalized for speech or beliefs unless that speech poses a credible risk of harm to another person or their property. To claim otherwise is simply a lie.There is no Biblical basis for refusing to bake a wedding cake for a same-sex marriage and as a matter of fact the Bible actually has passages that say common courtesy and love for fellow humans is more important than even following some law, even a law from God. You have even been provided with just such a passage from the Bible.Sorry but you and all the other members of your Chapter of Club Christian have lost this debate on Biblical as well as a humanitarian basis.Edited by jar, : fix sub-titleEdited by jar, : appalin spallin

Many ancient Christian practices should be criminalized; folk today are generally more moral than the Gods of the Bible ever were.

That is because there is no persecution of Christians in the US. To claim that there is is simply a lie.

Except you have totally failed to show that Christians in the US are being persecuted.

Perhaps I actually understand the meaning of "persecution"?Being a Christian gives no special privileges. Being sanctioned for breaking laws is not "persecution". No one has ever presented any possible Biblical justification for not baking a cake for a same-sex marriage.Sorry but your position fails on Biblical, moral and humanitarian grounds.

Perhaps this time you can point out what terms are being redefined, or just stop making shit up.

Once again you are simply just making shit up and lying. No one has said or implied or asserted or suggested or hinted that violence by any group against another group should not be prosecuted (note that is a different word than "persecute") and you are simply once again just making unsupported, dishonest, irrelevant assertions.

I will call for prosecution of vandals period, but I have also not seen a believable report of vandalism against Christians over refusing to bake cakes for a same-sex wedding. Remember I would want believable reports not just crap from the Christian Cult of Ignorance.And if you could actually read you would see that was NOT the correspondence Taq made and that you are simply misrepresenting his position, as expected.

What is even funnier is Faith complaining that some Mexican Roman Catholics forced Evangelicals to leave their village when she has made statements like the following from her posts and blogs.

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Feel I should offer at least a brief clarification of my post about the attack on the French magazine Charlie Hebdo, where I said that France and in fact all of Europe need to deport their Muslims and get back to Protestant Christianity.

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and from Message 246. Faith and the rest of her tribe are the greatest threat that the US faces IMHO.

Thank you Faith for supporting my point and demonstrating you are no different than the fanatics in Chiapas and Hidalgo. I knew I could count on you for a clear example of why the members of your Chapter of Club Christian are the greatest threat the US has ever faced and why the 1^st. Amendment was included in our Constitution to protect us from folk like you.Edited by jar, : what ---> why