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Author | Topic: Jihadists must die, --- but our real enemies are the Qur’an and Bible. | |||||||||||||||||||||||
Greatest I am Member (Idle past 303 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
GDR
I agree but a holy book makes it so much easier to talk yourself into doing something evil. I agree that many different ideas come from scriptures if not read literally but all those who believe in Jesus must read the bible literally to some extent. "The religion is Christianity. It is about being a follower of Jesus. Jesus is the one who teaches that we are to love our enemies. turn the other cheek. do unto others etc and God the Father affirmed and vindicated the life of Jesus with His resurrection." Let me give you this link that speaks to the morality of some of those teachings. Not to the resurrection though. That bit of myth is too silly to even consider. I particularly think that Jesus no divorce law for women is an anti-love policy that does not belong in a religion that preaches love while having a God that only shows hate. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4b6_1381019976 RegardsDL
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 303 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
MrHambre
I know that my brush is wide in the issues of homophobia and misogyny, but in the West, Christianity has been the majority for many years and women and gays still go hungry for equality and justice and revues show clearly that Christianity is not a friend of equality, women and gays. Islam is worse. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqN8EYIIR3g&feature=related Do not get me wrong. We are progressing. We also have a long way to go. RegardsDL
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 303 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
GDR
If Jesus is the best mankind can do then we are surely in deep trouble. You are correct in what Jesus said about men divorcing. That does not say that women can. Equality of access to divorce was not promoted by Jesus nor was the equality of slaves. If a man, Jesus can be forgiven but as a God, to forgive the injustice he preached is not forgivable. The clincher for me is his promotion of human sacrifice and the notion that we should profit from the punishment of the innocent instead of the guilty. From that immoral policy, all of todays Christianity was born. Seems we have to sell our souls to Satan to try to get to use our get out of hell free card. Christians will be surprised when that free pass does not work. RegardsDL Edited by Greatest I am, : No reason given.
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 303 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
MrHambre
I am not an atheist. I am a Gnostic Christian and a cut above Christians and Muslims in terms or equality, which we tie to righteousness. I do not see women and gays complain of what I do. I do see many so called moral Christians and Muslims upset when they have to recognize their own immorality by their denying women and gays equality. RegardsDL
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 303 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
jar
Did your idiocy make you feel better? RegardsDL
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 303 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 303 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
Ringo
Humble is overrated. RegardsDL
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 303 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
jar
You think we should forget 3,000 of female and gay oppression just because Christians find a small bit of common sense for gays as they continue to discriminate against women. You forget how hard gays had to fight for equality that women still do not have thanks to Christians and Muslims. All but a few of the Abrahamic cults grand equality to all showing just how immoral the Abrahamic cults generally are. RegardsDL
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 303 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
jar
If you wanted or could educate you would. All who fly the cross and follow the bible will discriminate as that is what Christianity does best. None, as far as I know, have taken out the passages that say man will rule over women and that women should not teach men. Show which bible has deleted those misogyny creating verses. If you wanted or could educate you would. RegardsDL
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 303 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
Faith.
The best way to deal with you is two links. One that shows how Christianity worked hard to give women equality, or not. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqN8EYIIR3g&feature=related The other speaks to Christianity and gay marriage. WHEN SAME-SEX MARRIAGE WAS A CHRISTIAN RITE1 You will note that Catholics still have no female Bishops and that only some of the protestant churches have women priests and mostly because shrinking numbers could not find male clergy. RegardsDL
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 303 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
jar
You are either a fool or a blind mind. Catholics split over church's campaign against same-sex marriage - CNN.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqN8EYIIR3g&feature=related Should we make sure that every American READS Mein Kampf? Books don't discriminate. RegardsDL
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 303 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
Faith
"Yes, women were made FOR man but that is not subjugation, it's role and not oppressive in itself." So being owned is not subjugation or oppression. Slaves will be happy to hear that. Thanks for showing us how your religion has corrupted your morals. RegardsDL Edited by Greatest I am, : No reason given.
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 303 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
ringo
Not by the intelligent. RegardsDL
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 303 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
Faith
Good. Explain why you see a fallen world when your God is said to produce all things perfect. Also explain why the myth Christianity usurped from the Jews, that saw Eden as man's elevation, and changed that elevation to the fall you think you see. I also track markers for evil. All those I track are the best we have ever enjoyed. Death by violence, theft, rape, slavery, all these are statistically at the best level we have ever enjoyed. Where do you see a fallen world and why do you not see God's kingdom here the way I do? Jesus said, "If those who attract you say, 'See, the Kingdom isin the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is under the earth,' then the fish of the sea will precede you. Rather, the Kingdom of God is inside of you, and it is outside of you. [Those who] become acquainted with [themselves] will find it; [and when you] become acquainted with yourselves, [you will understand that] it is you who are the sons of the living Father. But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you who are that poverty." Why do you live in such poverty? Why do you deny God his perfect works? Deuteronomy 32:4 He is the Rock, his work is perfect: RegardsDL
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 303 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
Faith
Your bible says that God's works are perfect and that that perfection cannot go to imperfection and always reproduces perfection. If not then it opens the door to God creating imperfection and that is contrary to your scriptures. You wrote. "Well, the Jews don't understand their own scriptures, as the New Testament reveals." My reply. That was a really stupid reply. You are firmly in your right wing literalist position and I cannot reason you out of something that you were never reasoned into and all you have is your blind faith. Let me end with this. Bill Moyers Journal . Watch & Listen | PBS Rabbi Hillel, the older contemporary of Jesus, said that when asked to sum up the whole of Jewish teaching, while he stood on one leg, said, "The Golden Rule. That which is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor. That is the Torah. And everything else is only commentary. Now, go and study it." Please listen as to what is said about literal reading. "Origen, the great second or third century Greek commentator on the Bible said that it is absolutely impossible to take these texts literally. You simply cannot do so. And he said, "God has put these sort of conundrums and paradoxes in so that we are forced to seek a deeper meaning." RegardsDL
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