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Author | Topic: Immigrants good for me and you? Bad? How to make a good answer that is accurate? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Taq Member Posts: 10085 Joined: Member Rating: 5.1
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Faith writes: Asians in general come from cultures that value work and personal social responsibility, in other words good candidates for citizenship. That's not racist at all. [/sarcasm]
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Taq Member Posts: 10085 Joined: Member Rating: 5.1
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Faith writes: We don't need more socialists. Isn't that a clear enough idea? The vast majority of native born Americans are socialists. There is wide support for public education, Social Security, Medicare, and other socialist programs. Edited by Taq, : No reason given.
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Faith writes:
Socialism is the natural state of social species. We don't need more socialists. In humans there is a conflict between individual interests (greed) and collective interests. Doesn't, "Go ye into all the world," suggest that the gospel has a collective component?And our geese will blot out the sun.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Oh well. It's about culture, not race, but there is of course always enough overlap to confuse the poor leftists.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I fail to see how "go ye into all the world" has anything to do with socialism or collectivism. People are saved one by one in all the world.
The gospel does of course have a corporate component, the Church, the Body of Christ, but governing the fallen world is a different kettle of fish. ABE: If you want to prove socialism from the Bible you should start with the theocracy of Israel. I don't see socialism there, do you? All the tribes had their own land, private property was preserved. Shared property would be where I'd look for a socialist factor but I see a recognition of individual ownership instead. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
that's why I said "in general."
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
Oh well. It's about culture, not race, but there is of course always enough overlap to confuse the poor leftists. No confusion. You are a bigot. Your words not mine. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door! We got a thousand points of light for the homeless man. We've got a kinder, gentler, machine gun hand. Neil Young, Rockin' in the Free World. Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith I hate you all, you hate me -- Faith No it is based on math I studied in sixth grade, just plain old addition, substraction and multiplication. -- ICANT
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I guess a bigot is someone who knows how to think then, who knows how to recognize important differences between cultures, ideas, ideologies and so on, whereas leftists have their minds in such a politically correct vise they can't think at all. That's what socialism and communism do to us. Mind control, authoritarian totalitarian mind control: don't you DARE have a thought we've called bigotry or we will
punish you without mercy. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
Jubillee. If you want to prove socialism from the Bible you should start with the theocracy of Israel. I don't see socialism there, do you?And our geese will blot out the sun.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Jubilee is a law of mercy, has nothing to do with socialism.
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
Mercy for debts. Redistribution of wealth. A check on rampant greed. Jubilee is a law of mercy, has nothing to do with socialism.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Yes a check on rampant greed, a NONSOCIALISTIC check on rampant greed. We don't need socialism, there are better ways of dealing with such things and the law of mercy is a major one. The Bible has many admonitions against the exploitation of the poor by the rich and general restraints on the rich without anything remotely like socialism.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
There is no "redistribution of wealth" there at all, no coercion as in socialistic systems that control and oppress everybody, but simply forgiveness and mercy through obedience to God.
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
Of course there is. Don't be silly. The whole point was to prevent people from being financially ruined forever. The money they would have paid was kept for their own (more productive) use.
There is no "redistribution of wealth" there at all... Faith writes:
You're making a strawman of socialism. ...no coercion as in socialistic systems that control everybody....And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Faith writes:
Socialism done in a non-socialistic way? Or maybe you just have the wrong idea of what socialism is. Yes a check on rampant greed, a NONSOCIALISTIC check on rampant greed. Edited by ringo, : spellingeAnd our geese will blot out the sun.
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