egotheistic pantheism revealed...

Yes because God does not hide. He is the light. We hide from him because we are sinners. Lies do not come from God. They come from man and his seducing spirit who is the god of this age.There is a god of time, and a god of eternity. The latter knows his time is short.John 8:43 Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. 44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45 Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! Edited by scottness, : No reason given.

As I said to Mod, if this is not you or your friends thank God. but those are the people I am talking about. And their numbers are increasing.It is difficult to believe that anyone would be so extreme... but we live in extrordinarily cynical and desperate times. Times of the '21st century schidzoid man'. Edited by scottness, : No reason given.

Yes... it is discarded and trampled as inane!

Jaderis:Very good Jaderis, but I said in message http://EvC Forum: egotheistic pantheism revealed... -->EvC Forum: egotheistic pantheism revealed... Your clever arguments and sophistry only proove the case, so keep it up.I hope the whole world is listening so that he who has an ear may hear.Edited by scottness, : No reason given.Edited by scottness, : No reason given.Edited by scottness, : No reason given.

uh... ok.. that is what I already said. Your previous statement would disagree with your second...The ego-theist needs to smuggle in a transcendant theology, they've appearently chosen yours because it does not exclude them from doing so.That's the danger of no moral law... Yes, more so all the time.With all due respect do you Mod?I know you are a very thoughtful man. Your words are few and carefully chosen. The easist way to accomplish that, to an irritating and powerful degree is to be single minded (irritating to the double minded that is).

I will do what is right. I worship the law of God and the God that lives that law.Certainly I do not have to conform to your relative law. The whole purpose of the relative law is so that I can do what I want.You ask for what you do not understand.And why would my thoughs be of value to you, when you have your own to worship.C.S. Lewis said, 'there are no original thinkers really. We're all just plagiarizing to one extent or another.'I agree with him, Ravi, and John the baptist... wholeheartedly.The truth preceded us all.

As I said to Jaderis in post 163: http://EvC Forum: egotheistic pantheism revealed... -->EvC Forum: egotheistic pantheism revealed...Jaderis:Yes... it is discarded and trampled as inane! (thanks Phat / jar)So, I do what I think is right Schraff. Not to gain popularity or peace at the expense of truth.SchrafThak you...But interupting productive discussion? ...please...If a band of thieves is carrying on in a brothel having a good time and making their plans... Do you think they would be annoyed and feel derailed to have a preacher come into their midst and remind them in point blank terms of the error of their ways?Would they repent and accept his sound counsel?Some will...But many will plot in every conceivable way to undermine and discredit the preacher. And if given the chance, some will kill him if they think they can get away with it.Mt 10:34 "Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.If you put those two together, you may understand the latter for the first time...

Mod, I read your whole post. And I thought about your previous ones today. You are correct as far as I can tell. I had not even heard of egotheism until you brought it up.I have decided that the best way to handle this is to go back and re-title the thread. I will meet you halfway since those I have encountered do use pantheism as justification for their beliefs. So I will refer to it as egotheistic pantheism. It may be better called the new age, but the new age is an extension of pantheism. I apologize to you and any others who have been misrepresented.Rob

No one ever said (at least not I) that the 'prince of the air', nor his disciples, would be impressed or moved by my rebellion against the wind. But you never know if a few might get sucked into the draft I make stides to produce as I move steadily in the other direction. Once there in the vortex, they might get a look at the wind blowing by and see it for what it is for the first time...I can't make it happen, I can only provide the eddie...

My apologies sir, I will try to do better.2 Corinthians 4:7 But we have this treasure in jars of clay to show that this all-surpassing power is from God and not from us.

What? Telling the truth is now called 'mudslinging and paranoid' by the sophisticates of the 21st Century?No, it has been called worse since day one. And in the middle of this epoch, He was even nailed to a cross.

I watched my share of Seinfeld, but I missed that one!Hit's home don't it?Everybody likes to join in on the fun of mocking Christianity. It's the new craze if you wanna be in. But isn't it ironic that the same people that are in now, became bitter because they were not at one time. They have become what they hate.And like jar said earlier, they think that because 'we know' as Christ knew, that they want to kill us (in their hearts), we must be projecting that murderous intent. We only know because we once did ourselves.They should try mocking the Muslims in the same way...The Christian church of today knows full well that the battle is Spiritual. The sword is the word of God.I wield it with offense, and without apology.They can laugh all they want when I occasionally cut off one of my own limbs, but I am not the sword, I am only a rediculous and unworthy bearer of the honor.I know we are going to lose in temporal terms...

And an honest one!Thanks again for your well reasoned participation...

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I know... Is that why you don't ignore me?
Because I am irrelevant?Not a very Christian thing to say jar... 'that one doesn't matter'.
I have always thought you mattered, and that is why I beat my head against 'this mad buggers wall' of yours....'and after all it's not easy!'As for your comment, that depends on what 'murder' / 'killing' is...You're a Christian. Surely you know...Matthew 5:21 "You have heard that it was said to the people long ago, 'Do not murder, and anyone who murders will be subject to judgment.' 22 But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to his brother, 'Raca,' is answerable to the Sanhedrin. But anyone who says, 'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell.

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John 7:19 Has not Moses given you the law? Yet not one of you keeps the law. Why are you trying to kill me?"

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John 8:37 I know you are Abraham's descendants. Yet you are ready to kill me, because you have no room for my word.

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John 8:40 As it is, you are determined to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God. Abraham did not do such things.John 7:20 "You are demon-possessed," the crowd answered. "Who is trying to kill you?"I will not contend with you forever jar...