Register | Sign In


Understanding through Discussion


EvC Forum active members: 64 (9164 total)
3 online now:
Newest Member: ChatGPT
Post Volume: Total: 916,902 Year: 4,159/9,624 Month: 1,030/974 Week: 357/286 Day: 13/65 Hour: 0/0


Thread  Details

Email This Thread
Newer Topic | Older Topic
  
Author Topic:   Does ID follow the scientific method?
Zubbbra25
Junior Member (Idle past 4135 days)
Posts: 22
Joined: 10-11-2010


Message 63 of 325 (592184)
11-19-2010 3:11 AM
Reply to: Message 58 by Dawn Bertot
11-19-2010 2:23 AM


Re: Question everything
Please demonstrate why my observations of nature, my experiments, my evaluations and my predictions of what nature will reveal, are not science
You ca measure, evaluate and predict all you want. But as Ken Ham states,
But notice something about the assumptions of naturalism and uniformitarianism: they are anti-biblical assumptions. The bible indicated that the universe was created supernaturally by God (Genesis 1:1) and that present rates are not always indicitive of past rates.
So measure all you want, and evaluate all you want. I don't see how, by this very statement alone, can you use any of these measurements or evaluations to explain what happened in the past. As by assuming, just that present rates are not always indicitive of past rates, that any measurement, and any evaluation you make based of that measurement, will hold for anything in the past.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 58 by Dawn Bertot, posted 11-19-2010 2:23 AM Dawn Bertot has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 65 by Dawn Bertot, posted 11-19-2010 3:19 AM Zubbbra25 has not replied

  
Zubbbra25
Junior Member (Idle past 4135 days)
Posts: 22
Joined: 10-11-2010


Message 160 of 325 (592571)
11-20-2010 5:58 PM
Reply to: Message 157 by Dawn Bertot
11-20-2010 5:23 PM


Re: ID is not science
design cannot fail because it is not based on a designer, but the evaluation of natural process, doing what they do
You are confusing presuppositions and conclusions with what can be logically and physically deduced
Ok, so is this what your trying to say:
IDM = SM.
But ID = IDM + Creation by an intelligent being.
Or have I got myself confused.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 157 by Dawn Bertot, posted 11-20-2010 5:23 PM Dawn Bertot has not replied

  
Zubbbra25
Junior Member (Idle past 4135 days)
Posts: 22
Joined: 10-11-2010


Message 174 of 325 (592605)
11-20-2010 7:19 PM
Reply to: Message 171 by alschwin
11-20-2010 7:14 PM


Re: Question everything
so then are you claiming that evolutionists believe time, space and matter has not always existed? honest question, please give and honest answer.
Off topic and I'm not sure what that has to do with 'evolutionists'.
AbE : seems I was beaten to the topic-issue by Coyote.
Edited by Zubbbra25, : Coyote has quicker fingers than I.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 171 by alschwin, posted 11-20-2010 7:14 PM alschwin has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 179 by alschwin, posted 11-20-2010 7:50 PM Zubbbra25 has not replied

  
Newer Topic | Older Topic
Jump to:


Copyright 2001-2023 by EvC Forum, All Rights Reserved

™ Version 4.2
Innovative software from Qwixotic © 2024