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Message 149 of 777 (748115)
01-22-2015 11:03 PM
Reply to: Message 148 by Minnemooseus
01-22-2015 11:01 PM


Re: Yes, no, or "I don't understand the question"
How about "I don't know if I believe in God or not yet, I've been working on learning about God for some time, I'll let you know when I've come to a conclusion."

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Message 152 of 777 (748122)
01-23-2015 12:05 AM
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01-22-2015 11:51 PM


Re: Yes, no, or "I don't understand the question"
But to decide if one believes in God or not doesn't require thinking you understand God, and most of us who believe in God figure we'll be learning about Him for all eternity. But isn't it reasonable to suppose one could be in the process of learning enough to decide if you simply believe?

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Message 166 of 777 (748167)
01-23-2015 10:41 AM
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01-23-2015 12:35 AM


Re: Yes, no, or "I don't understand the question"
Believing my doctrine is correct, apart from the fact that I've never said it's PERFECTLY correct, since even among the people I identify with we have small differences of doctrine, doesn't imply perfect knowledge of God, or anything about "understanding" God. I think you've confused some different concepts.
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Message 238 of 777 (748556)
01-26-2015 8:08 PM
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01-26-2015 1:01 PM


Re: agnostic anyone? when "don't know" is the logical answer.
At a guess I think I've said about 30 times that you can't be agnostic about belief,
I'm not sure what it means to be "agnostic about belief." But you surely can be agnostic about the existence of God.

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Message 429 of 777 (749538)
02-05-2015 3:57 PM
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02-05-2015 9:08 AM


Re: Know Thyself
How does one distinguish between what Faith actually knows and that which she merely believes she knows?
Gosh, you might try trusting me once in a while not to be the total idiot who would say I know something when I really only believe I know it. How else would anyone learn something about intangibles like God except by considering that maybe something you don't yourself know IS known by someone else? That in fact is how I got to belief: I believed what a couple of Hindu gurus were saying about having personally experienced "God." Something I had no experience of myself but I had the charity to believe they could know something I don't know -- something to do with more than one person saying pretty much the same thing: "two or more witnesses...". Turned out in the end that I no longer believe that what they had experienced was God but it was certainly something supernatural and I hadn't had that experience either. But it launched me on a quest for God and ultimately I found Him and I KNOW I found Him. Instead of dismissing what other people have to say about their personal experiences, just try considering they must be talking about SOMETHING they experience that you haven't. It's called humility. To get from that to knowing something yourself requires some work of course, but it starts with simple charitable trust in other human beings.
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Message 432 of 777 (749554)
02-05-2015 4:48 PM
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02-05-2015 4:41 PM


Re: Know Thyself
I guess you have to think that.

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