Morality! Thorn in Darwin's side or not?

Because it benefits ourselves as humans beings both as individuals and as a species to balance altruism with self-needs and wants. It also benefits the rest of the biosphere if we accept this harmonious balance and use it as a foundation to our numerous moral codes as well (not to say that is what we are perfect in doing this as a species at the moment). Read the Humanist Manifesto and it will explain this in greater granularity. Humanism originated long before the idea of evolution was formulated and long before Charles Darwin penned his "Origin of Species...". What you consider evil, many of us consider good. BTW, I have no problem with your religious views as long as it does trample on the rights and freedoms of others. Case in point! Is this picture nude? Does it shrow bare breasts or other genetilia? I think not. Grow up. If you don't like you do not have to post on here, do you? And I consider your avatar and your very presence here offensive. See where that gets us? You have no more right to dictate conditions and terms on this forum than we do. Get over your self-righteous self.BTW, have a good day. Edited by DevilsAdvocate, : No reason given.

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For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
Dr. Carl Sagan

ICANT,Good to hear from you again.The problem with the above is that even modern day Christians would not agree with the system of morality established by your "God" as described in the Bible, both NT and OT i.e. God condoning slavery, corprol punishment by stoning, the refusal to defend oneself or provide collective defense against bullies (as portrayed by the life of Jesus and his apostles, which clearly contradicts the capricious actions by God in the OT), etc. For example why does God say in the OT not to kill (or loosley intepreted by modern Christians "murder") and then not only condones but commands the wholesale, ethnicidal annihalation of men, women, children and livestock of whole Canaanite villages and socities not once but over and over throughout early Jewish history?There are glaring inconsistencies even between modern Christians on what "love your neighbor as yourself" and "love God with all your sole" actually mean and how it should be applied in todays modern world. Would you not agree? Do we still condone slavery? Do we condone punishment in the form of stoning people, including children? Is an iron rod a sufficient form of chastisement for children to keep them in line? Are practices such as ethnicide acceptable to meet an acceptable end goal?The end problem is this: How do you define "love your neighbor"? Why is it that the large majority of fundamentalist Christians find it acceptable to go off to war to let's say Iraq and take up arms against an defiant dictatorial regime which have cost many American as well as Iraqi lives (including innocent men, women and children)? How does this jive with your view of "love your neighbor as much as yourself?" Are not the Iraqi people your neighbors? If Christian fundamentalists love them so much why are they so willing to do them harm? Do you not see the glaring inconsistencies and gaps in understanding as a result from such cliche and purposfully vague phrases as "love your neighbor as yourself" and "love God with all your heart"? Edited by DevilsAdvocate, : Correct spelling & grammer

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For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
Dr. Carl Sagan