Honour Amongst Christians

Hi Ned, Ned I was talking about the beginning of everything.Are you being a little less than honorable and trying to get me in trouble.I sure hope not.Do I understand you to say what happened in the beginning was designed or at the least directed?We are talking about Christians being honorable and honest here and I am trying to be.Have fun,

Hi Stile, Throughout the thread I have been talking about What I believe is a very honorable God giving me all I need to be able to come to the proper conclusion about Him. I am a Bible thumper so I tend to go the way of the written Word.I can read the copies of the Greek Septuagint. I studied the Hebrew but it is practically useless today because you can not take Hebrew of the last 1000 years and determine what the Old Testament said.Jesus did quote the Septuagint, as did the Apostles including Paul who could have probably quoted the entire record him being a Pharisee of the Pharisees. He was their teacher.I think Paul was honorable and gave us his revelations from God while carefully comparing those things to what he had learned.Maybe I am just gullible when I believe the Holy Spirit can guide me in all truth concerning God. As Jesus promised the disciples He would do when He sent Him.Now you are telling me God has some real evidence in reality that I have not found because if I did I would not believe the way I do.
If that information is available and you know what it is would you be so kind and to point it out to me.And please be honest to yourself and to me.have fun,

Hi Stile, I have never discussed this on here and have no desire to, as it would take hundreds of hours of reserarch that I am not willing to waste the time doing. But I will give you my thoughts. If Science is correct that all the land mass was in one place at one time which by the way confirms Genesis 1:9.The Bible says the earth (land mass) was divided in Genesis 10:25.
Science confirms this in saying tectronics is responsible for the shifting of the land masses.If the land masses was divided, mountains were formed, and oceans were created after the flood, What would you expect to find to prove or disprove it happened?Now as to the laws that were given to the children of Israel do you think they worked?If you will check there are many peoples in history that have disappeared from the face of the earth. You will also find that in 1948 Israel became a nation again. They had not been a nation in 1900+ years.You must take into consideration God gave these laws to the descendents of Abraham no one else. He wanted to preserve His chosen race and He did. You disagree with the methods fine, but it worked they are still here. Although several nations have tried to destroy them and have killed millions of them in the process. Yet they still exist and must exist or God would be a liar.You see He made Abraham a promise, and He made David a promise. God keeps his promises.I he didn't that would make God dishonorable.Is this all you got against my Bible?

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

Hi Stile, Does reality trump my view of what happened according to the Bible?
Concerning the possibility of a world wide flood.As I said my God is honorable and trust worthy.Have fun,

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

Hi nator, But according to your reasoning God is responsible for the woman therefore He would be to blame.Your ancestor disobeyed God. Plunging himself and all his descendants into the devils house. God had nothing to do with it.
If you choose to stay in the devils house when it is cast into the lake of fire you will be there also.Was the first man honorable in doing what he did? No
Was God honorable in providing a way of escape? Yes. Why should that child have to suffer because momma enjoyed herself? How can you choose something that you do not believe exists? Yes, although the descendants of Abraham are a chosen people. That is between Ghandi and God. How do you know they never had an opportunity to hear the Gospel?Besides it is the Church's job today to see that they get that opportunity. Why do you think billions of dollars are spent in that effort?Before you say it I am not talking about the silver tongue wolves in sheep's clothing that are lining their pockets in the name of helping. That being said: Why should my God be honorable and let you live in His estate when you don't even believe in Him and besides that you are calling Him all kind of names.It makes no difference what you have said or done if you were to come to my God truly believing in Him for eternal life He would let you come live in His estate.nator: What if God does exist?That makes my God a very honorable God.Have fun,

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

Hi Stile, Did you misread what I said? Message 177
Reality science says land was connected at one time.
Bible says all land in one place in Genesis 1:9.Reality science says continents have shifted to present positions.
Bible says earth [land mass] was divided in Gen. 10:25.Reality science says there was no flood.
Bible says there was a world wide flood in Gen.7:6Reality and Bible conflict. Therefore God is wrong and not honorable.But wait a minute the flood was prior to the division of the land, the forming of the mountains and oceans.My question was, What could we expect to find to prove a flood that would confirm Gods Word.God's Word is still true as you could find nothing unless it is all the places you find that there was a local flood that got moved to where it is today.You see my God is true His word is true He is very honorable.Man just has not been very honest in his search. Because he is searching for what he think's he ought to find.Have fun,

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

Hi nator, Did you read all that part of the post in Message 161? Phat asked a question. How do we know who has the Holy Spirit?My answer was "We don't".You receive the Holy Spirit when you are born again.This is not manifest certain things listed above.It is manifest "IN" someone doing God's will.By their (the born again Holy Spirit filled people) will be known by their.Nowhere does it say you are born again and receive the Holy Spirit by doing good works. Do you think I will change my answer because you reworded the question?Same answer: That is between him and God. I will answer this question with a question.Why is it that everytime a new people was discovered they had some kind of God they were worshiping?Maybe you can find your answer in there. You sound like my kids used too. Daddy why can't we do........?
About the 3rd time they asked they got taken out behind the woodshed and introduced to the board of education.Now how many times have I answered this question for you.
You can find your answer here. Message 90
You can find your answer here. Message 130
You can find your answer here. Message 160
You can find your answer here. Message 167
You can find your answer here. Message 182Have fun,

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

Hi nator, I don't but it is His Word.Below is the analysis that you cherry picked this line out of:

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Reality and Bible conflict. Therefore God is wrong and not honorable.

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Message 186
In the message 180 you asked why I would not answer your question that I have already answered 5 times to you and probably that many to other posters.In this message you have picked out something and taken it out of context to make a statement.This is the last post I will answer from you that you pull these kind of stunts.nator my patience is long but you have reached the point I agree with Hill Billy.
EvC Forum: Evolutionary superiority Now is you want to be honorable and debate in an honorable way I will respond. But if you debate in a dishonorable way I will not reply.After all that is what this thread is about honor.Goodnight,

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

Hi Stile, In the matter of asking for or receiving the free pardon offered by God, are you sure you are not mistaking pride for honor?Pride would keep a man from comparing himself to God and exclaming as Isaiah did: "my best is as filthly rags in the eyes of God."Because when a man does that he realizes his condition doomed to the lake of fire.Now what is dishonorable is believing and receiving the free pardon.
I think it would be most honorable to ask.But Pride says No, No, No. He should give it to me because He knows I need it.God Bless,

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

Hi Stile, Stile you are in an all out war and don't even realize it.
You have already lost.
You are in the final battle.
The terms of surrender has been presented to you in this thread.
You can surrender or face the consequences.Now you figure out what is most honorable for you.The devil would love to have the opportunity you have as you read this message, But he never will.Now you can choose to stand on some principal that you think is important to you here in this life.But I tell you that you are so full of pride that you are not willing to admit that you need to be saved. Because you think you are honorable. Therefore no man can tell you what you should or should not do.So take your pride and your honor and when you stand before the Great White Throne Judgment and bow your knees and confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. Then hear Him say depart from me Stile you worker of iniquity into the everlasting fire, I never knew you.Then you can have your pride and honor there forever to enjoy your punishment.Shucks, I forgot you don't really believe in God or the lake of fire so excuse my rant.God Bless those who trust Him,

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

Hi Stile, You left out the most important one.Doomed is the man, To a lake of fire forever, who will not trust Christ and receive the free pardon offered.God Bless,

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

Hi Stile, How much time have you invested in studying God's manual?Stile I wish I could tell you as jar would just forgit about it you are doing fine.But according to the evidence I have you are doomed.
You are letting your education get in the way. Along with what you have heard.You say you are a seeker but are you really. I asked you about two weeks ago to do something (read the book of John in a KJV Bible). Have you done that?I know everybody says the Bible is a lie, it is just a myth, a bunch of men wrote it. Well I will agree it, it not in the form that was the original Words of God. But it is still a good book.Let me talk about why I believe the Bible, and that My God is honorable for having let me have it.Science tells me the universe has a beginning. Science tells me the universe is expanding. Science says the land mass was all connected at one time. Science tell me the land mass has moved apart. Science tells me the life of the flesh is in the blood discovered in early 1900's. There are so many. It tells me of the automobile it even tells of the crashes we have on our highways. It tells of airplanes, radio, television and many more things. Too many for it to have happened by chance that those fellows knew what they were talking about with outsome outside help.All of these things were talked about and written about long before science came along and figured it out. They could have saved a lot of time by reading the Bible. Well the same book that tells me about the things above tells me about Jesus. It did not lie then so I need to examine the book which I did.My conclusions were God was honorable and gave me an honest account.
When I did that I decided to receive the pardon offered by God.
That was 58 years ago. After that 58 years of walking and talking with God and Him supplying all my needs and more as far as I am concerned I have concrete evidence that God is real.I know no one but those who have experienced it know what I am talking about. To everyone else it is utter nonsense.Don't take my word for anything. But if you are a true seeker of the truth read the book of John in a KJV Bible then e-mail me and tell me what you think of it.I wish you luck in your journey,God Bless,

Hi Phat, Well the first thing is he missed a free gift. He did not take The Bible.Whose fault was it that he did not take the Bible? First why would it be a dishonor to refuse the offer?He may or may not ever find the answer.Whose fault is it if he never receives another such offer?Somebody said in the past that he did not think anyone should have a second chance until everybody had one chance. Why would it be dishonorable of God's part. He provided the sacrifice. He made the offer of the free pardon. He provided the Bible the guy on the street corner offered. He also provided the guy with a desire to be there.So is it God's fault if that was his 1 and only chance at eternal life?Stile talks about his honor and he is dedicated to keeping what he thinks is right.Well God gave his only begotten Son. Who suffered separation for 3 hours on that old cross so man could be saved.If God was to let one person into heaven without them going through Christ He would be dishonoring His promise to His Son. He would be dishonoring the sacrifice His Son Made.
Anyone who does not receive the free offer is saying Jesus the sacrifice you made and the blood you shed is no good as far as I am concerned.There are a lot of people that are saying well I'm God's creation, He loves me, why is He going to punish me with the lake of fire.. I am doing what I think is right. I am doing the best I can.God will accept nothing less than a person believing that He exists and that He can and will do what He says He will Do.When they get that part right and come believing Jesus Christ died for their sins and that all they have to do is receive the free gift offered by God which is eternal life.They have to do just like the man passing the guy on the street corner. They have to reach out to God and take the free gift. Or just keep on doing like they have been and depending on themselves.All that refuse will spend eternity in a lake of fire forever.If God did any less he would be a most dishonorable God.God Bless,

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

Hi Stile, That is the 64 dollar question and the devil has made sure your have enough choices to keep you confused until he welcomes you home. Don't worry over me I know whom I have believed. If you want to know how I know drop me an e-mail as I will not get into it in a public forum.

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

Hi Stile, Religions of the world: numbers of adherents; growth rates Well you got at least 34,000 choices.These are the choices the devil has provided for man. God provided "the" way.Because He was an honorable God.Jesus said: "I am the way the truth and the life, no man cometh to the Father but by me." John 14:6Have a productive search on your journey.

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."