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With much regret and reservation, I have begun to realize that Obama will most likely not win a second term.We visited my sister over last weekend. Her husband is a Phd engineer working for caterpillar. He blames all of cat's problems with the union striking on the health care reform. He said cat is considering dropping everyone's health insurance and just pays for the penalty because it will be cheaper. His parents' roof needs a replacement and he blames their inability to pay for a new roof on the health care reform.Basically speaking, he blames everything about everything on the health care reform.We just sat quietly listening to him blaming all of society's problems on the health care reform.I believe he represents a very large portion of the American populace. Just blame all their problems on the health care reform.After spending the weekend at their place, I've become convinced that Obama will lose this upcoming election

But think about it for a moment. I firmly believe that if you repeat a lie long enough people will begin to believe it. The republicans have been blaming all of society's problems on the healthcare reform. I'm afraid people have begun believing them.

I did ask that. You are probably not aware, I don't know, but Cat is self insured. Their insurance for their employees are run by them. My bro in law, and according to him everyone in Cat, thinks that the new health care reform requires that Cat drop their self-run insurance program and get it from a real insurance company.Think about it for a second. I'm talking about a Phd engineer here. I'm talking about one of the largest corporations in the world here. These very smart individuals completely misunderstand what's in the reform. I know. But there are still a hell of a lot of people who continue to believe in the disinformation that the republican base have been putting out there.It's been half a week since we got away from that place, and I am sitll as depressed as ever. I guess what I'm most depressed about is the fact that a Phd engineer along with his Phd buddies from one of the largest engineering firms in the world all believe firmly in lies. Obama hasn't got a chance to win this next election.

Bug frog, we were all sure Bush was going to lose to back in 2004. You remember that? Bush's ratings were in the 30s. Every major news network hinted that he was a 1 term president. Everyone on here said there was no chance in hell he would get a second term. And yet there he was a clear winner.Believe me, right now Romney scares the hell out of me. And I've fallen in love with Obama. But there are just too many disinfo out there that people believe in. We're doomed

I hate to break this to you. Nobody is paying attention to this bain thing. If you look at the google news page and look up romney, you will not find anything regarding the bain date. Nobody cares that romney is a sociopathic liar.

Your argument reminds me of a global denier's argument I once heard. Hd said the earth has been here since the dinosaur and it will still be here even if global warming was true.There's one problem with this line of argument. Nobody is saying global warming will destroy the earth just like nobody is saying a romney/palin/bachman presidency will destroy this country. Just how climate change will make our lives harder, a wrong president can make all of our lives less than enjoyable.I'm not a doomsday nut.

You keep basing your argument on facts. If anything, we should be well aware by now that the American populace at large don't care about facts.All they care about is this. There's a black guy in office. His health care reform is the single cause for all of society's problems.There's a white guy running against the black guy. The white guy made hundreds of millions... may be he can show us how to become millionaires as well.I'm sorry for my pessimistic view, but I just don't see how Obama could get through all the misinfo, racism, and people's ignorance.Don't forget that Romney has a lead on Obama in term of political donations. He's like $30 million ahead.And I firmly believe nothing will result from the subway and bain things in regard to Romney. Again, if I didn't know what to look for I wouldn't have found it. Almost nobody in the press is covering it.

I've recently started a business on the side. Brings in extra income. What I do is buy broken electronics, fix them, and resell them. I also pay home visits to repair people's tv's, computers, laptops, tablets, phones, audio system, etc.What I've learned from the short time that I've been doing my business is this. Most people can't think beyond what they see. They will associate things together just because of pure coincidence.For example, I recently repaired someone's home PC. About a week later, I got a call from the same guy. He blamed me for not being able to connect to the internet on his laptop, even though I never touched his laptop. He said everything else could connect to the home wifi but I somehow caused his laptop to not be able to connect. Well, it turned out he had accidentally switched off the wifi switch on his laptop.Or here's a more general case. People tend to go out and buy earthquake insurance right after an earthquake and tend to forget about it over time when in reality it should be the other way around.People associate random things together just because they can't see any deeper than what they can see. I've seen plenty of this.And right now, the single most change talked about is the healthcare reform. It's people's nature to associate it with everything that is bad. Remember that people tend to ignore the good things but pay very close attention to the bad things.Again, Cat is one of the largest corporations in the world. And the people running it have a gross misunderstanding of what the healthcare reform says. Not only that, they are also using the healthcare reform as an excuse for the problems they are having with the union striking right now.

Because he's white and he's rich, and if you elect him you will be rich as well.I forgot to mention that both my wife and I came from kinda racist families. My dad, for example, will never admit in a million years that he's racist, but if you talk with him for a while you will begin to pick up that he's got a very low view of blacks and latinos. I know how closeted racists act and talk. And the worst part is I see them all the time.Obama's advantage last time was that a lot of people weren't willing to hand the country over to a 70 year old guy with a dumbass VP. This time is different. Now, we got a white rich guy who's willing to share his secrets on how to get rich with you *wink wink*.If you can't tell, I'm freaking out. I'm genuinely scared.

No, he's not. Nobody is paying attention to it except a few optimistic people like you. Here's the google news page in the elections section. Here's the romney section. Like I said, we're doomed. Edited by Taz, : No reason given.Edited by Taz, : No reason given.

Shouldn't they be thanking god for their successful businesses instead of themselves?I own a business that I recently created out of my own damn money. As much pride as I have, I fully admit that the government made my business possible. How the hell else am I going to get to my clients and job sites if not driving on the American highway system?

And you guys were so optimistic. Obama will be outspent by Romney.Error 404 (Not Found)!!1

Do you happen to own your own business? The reason I ask is because I happen to own my own business. Aside from my day job, I run a business that profits more than I originally thought it would. If I had more time to run my business, I'd be making much much more with it. In fact, someone has already suggested I quit my engineering day job to expand my business. But for now, I'm perfectly happy with it bringing in about $1200 to 1500 a week. Before I started, I was counting on it to only give me back 300-500. That would have made me happy. What resulted was there was way way more demand than I had anticipated.Honestly, I don't know where the hell you got this crap from. How the hell are businesses suppose to prosper if there's less demand?Added by edit.I don't understand how you people can curse Obama and endorse Romney even though he's responsible for thousands of people's livelihoods. Don't get me wrong, I like making profits. Before I owned my own business, I never understood why people were so immersed in making profits with their businesses. Now that what I do directly affects how much money I bring in, I've become addicted to spending what little time I have working on my business. It's addicting, actually. You actually get high knowing how much you invested and how much return you got.That said, I would never bring myself to ruining people's lives just so I could make a profit. In fact, my business directly helps people to be more productive.It boggles my mind that people like you hate other people so much.Edited by Taz, : No reason given.Edited by Taz, : No reason given.

I'll say this again. For you to support the way people like Romney make money tells me you hate other people. My business is actually doing pretty well considering the fact that I have a full time job and does not spend as much time on my business as it deserves. And like I said before, my business directly helps people be productive in whatever profession they are involved with. I've helped carpenters, musicians, electricians, software developers, visual design artists, zoo keepers, etc. be more productive in their fields.I could never imagine myself plotting to ruin the lives of entire communities just so I could make millions. I have this evil atheist satan worshipping agenda called a conscience.And whoever said anything about collectivism? You appear to have the simplest understanding of economics and here you are trying to tell the rest of us we don't know shit.Oh, and a word of advice, if you intend to live in the real world some day, you need thicker skin. I have gay friends that have faced homophobia all their lives from the very godly christian conservatives and my gay friends don't lose it as easy as you. I'm sure it's got something to do with their satan worshipping ways...

Hey frog, your predictions are wrong. Nobody is talking about the Romney bain thing anymore. Why? Because the issue is too complicated for most people to understand.