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jar Member (Idle past 90 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Another chance to help educate you.
Actually when the British Monarch is crowned they are then seated on King Edwards chair. There much you can learn. Edited by jar, : fix sub-titleAnyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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ScottyDouglas Member (Idle past 4582 days) Posts: 79 Joined: |
In the prophecy, Isaiah 7:14, the prophet said, "Therefore the Lord Himself will give you a sign: The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and will call Him Immanuel." This prophecy refers to the birth of Jesus in Matthew 1:22-23, " The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel' which means, 'God with us.'" This does not mean, however, that the Messiah’s name would actually be Immanuel. There are many names given to Jesus using the phrase He shall be called, both in the Old and New Testaments. His name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace (Isaiah 9:6). None of these titles was Jesus’ actual name, but these were descriptions people would use to refer to Him forever.
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jar Member (Idle past 90 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Learn to read in context.
Stop just believing what folk tell you. Here is that section in context:
quote: Note the parts that many preachers always leave out. " For before the child shall know to refuse the evil, and choose the good, the land that thou abhorrest shall be forsaken of both her kings." The child which will be born will be immediate, and during the lifetime of Azah.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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ScottyDouglas Member (Idle past 4582 days) Posts: 79 Joined:
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When one traces the roots of the Britons, Scots, Irish, Welsh, English (Anglos and Saxons), Picts, Normans, and Celts, there is substantial evidence that all of those peoples are of Israelite descent. The tribe of Joseph seems to be best represented, but there is evidence for the presence of several of the tribes. Volumes have been written on that subject.
The Stone of Scone-The Stone of Scone, which is also known as the Stoneof Destiny and has had an extraordinarily elevated place in Irish,Scottish, English, British, Jewish, Muslim History, is a 26 incheslong, 16 inches wide, and 11 inches high block of yellowishsandstone, weighing 152 Kg and carved with a Latin Cross on top. cai.org domain name is for sale. Inquire now. http://www.asis.com/users/stag/stone.html
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jar Member (Idle past 90 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Nothing in any of that has anything to do with the fact that the British Monarchs are seated on King Edwards chair during the coronation.
Volumes have been written about Merlin and Tom Sawyer as well.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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ScottyDouglas Member (Idle past 4582 days) Posts: 79 Joined: |
14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
15 Butter and honey shall he eat, that he may know to refuse the evil, and choose the good. 16 For before the child shall know to refuse the evil, and choose the good, the land that thou abhorrest shall be forsaken of both her kings. I dont know why it is immediate? Was not the Jews forsaken of thier kings at the time of Jesus's life? This is a prophecy of the rule of Christ and the birth of Christ. Christ has not ruled but will after the antichrist prepares for war against Israel. Then Jesus will return will the raptured to destroy the antichrist and his armies and Christ will rule for a 1,000 years. You think of things literally actually. Thinking here and now, when time to God is infinate and tomorrow can be a thousand years. The Scriptures are visions and prophecies God was showing the people of the end and rule of Christ. Not a enemy then and now. The enemy then was because of the lack of faith and today it is the same and the same will happen to us.
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jar Member (Idle past 90 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined:
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It is immediate because it says it is immediate.
Did it happen before the child born during Azah's reign was old enough to know good from evil? Note it is taking about the land that Azah abhors, their current enemy. The question is whether or not ANY Old Testament prophecies refer to Jesus and so far the answer is "No!". Since you haven't read Isaiah 7, here is all of it.
quote: NOTE that the virgin birth and subsequent events are a sign given to Azah, signs for HIM to see during his lifetime. By the way, the prophecy did get fulfilled and during Azah's lifetime. Azah was king of Judah, and Israel was allied with Syria. Israel at the time was considered an apostate Nation. The two Kings mentioned are the Kings of Israel and of Syria (Damascus). Israel and Syria were attacking Judah and the fulfillment of the prophecy was when the Assyrians conquered both Nations.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Coragyps Member (Idle past 985 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined:
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When one traces the roots of the Britons, Scots, Irish, Welsh, English (Anglos and Saxons), Picts, Normans, and Celts, there is substantial evidence that all of those peoples are of Israelite descent. No! No! That's the Native Americans that are Israelites!! Haven't you read your Book of Mormon?
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PaulK Member Posts: 17909 Joined: Member Rating: 6.8
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quote: For the same reason we put a roadsign shortly BEFORE the turning, not hundreds of miles AFTER it. A sign that something is going to happen is only useful if it happens shortly BEFORE it happens. Not hundreds of years later
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9489 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 6.1
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When one traces the roots of the Britons, Scots, Irish, Welsh, English (Anglos and Saxons), Picts, Normans, and Celts, there is substantial evidence that all of those peoples are of Israelite descent. Care to share any of this "substantial evidence"?
The Stone of Scone-The Stone of Scone, which is also known as the Stoneof Destiny and has had an extraordinarily elevated place in Irish,Scottish, English, British, Jewish, Muslim History, is a 26 incheslong, 16 inches wide, and 11 inches high block of yellowishsandstone, weighing 152 Kg and carved with a Latin Cross on top. cai.org domain name is for sale. Inquire now. http://www.asis.com/users/stag/stone.html Absolutely hilarious. Your links offer no evidence to back up these wild ass assertions. You do know what evidence is don't you? This is my favorite assertion from your one link.
quote: Freaking priceless. My next favorite is this.
quote: It is actually The College of Arms. Please show the source for this. The only sources I can find are fundie christian sites. Also, if there was a biblical King David and he had descendents that have survived then there is a chance that anyone alive now could be a descendent. It wouldn't be that special. I am sure if this is true about the "Royal College of Heralds" then they must have done up a genealogy. Please provide it. I am calling bullshit on this. Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Fix "link" link. There was an extra space at the end of the url, before the "".Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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ScottyDouglas Member (Idle past 4582 days) Posts: 79 Joined:
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QUEEN VICTORIA
(Heir To King David's Royal Throne) By Revd. Charles Fox Parham U.S.A. Charles A. Jennings " ADAM TO VICTORIAGenerations 1 Adam, b c 4000, 3070, Eve.2 Seth, b c 3870, 2978 3 Enos, b c 3765, 2860 4 Cainan, b c 3675, 2765 5 Mahalaleel, b c 3605, 2710 6 Jared, b c 3540, 2578 7 Enoch, b c 3378, 3013 8 Methusaleh, b c 3313, 2344 9 Lamech, b c 3126, 2344 10 Noah, b c 2944, 2006, Naamah 11 Shem, b c 2442, 2158 12 Arphaxad, b c 2342, 1904 13 Salah, b c 2307, 2126 14 Heber, b c 2277, 2187 15 Peleg, b c 2243, 2004 16 Reu, b c 2213, 2026 17 Scrug, b c 2181, 2049 18 Nahor, b c 2052, 2003 19 Terah, b c 2122, 2083, Amtheta 20 Abraham, b c 1992, 1817, Sarah 21 Isaac, b c 1896, 1716, Rebekah 22 Jacob, b c 1837, 1690, Leah 23 Judah, b c 1753, Tamar 24 Hezron 25 Armn 26 Aminadab, 27 Naashon 28 Salmon 29 Boaz, b c 1312, Ruth 30 Obed 31 Jesse KINGS OF ISRAEL 32 K David, b c 1085, 1015, Bathsheba33 K Solomon, b c 1003, 975 Naamah 34 K Rehoboam, b c 1016, d 958, Maacah 35 K Abijam, b c 958, 955 36 K Asa, b c 95 5, 914, Azubah 37 K Jehosaphat, b c 914, 889 38 K Jehoram, b c 889, 885, Athaliah 39 K Ahaziah, b c 906, 884; Zibiah 40 K Joash, b c 885, 839, Jehoaddan 41 K Amaziah, b c 864, d 810, Jecholiah 42 K Uzziah, b c 826, d 758, Jerushah 43 K Jotham, b c 783, d 742 44 K Ahaz, b c 787, d 726, Abi 45 K Hezekiah, b c 75 I, d 698, Hephzibah 46 K Manasseh, b c 7 10, d 643, Meshullemeth 47 K Amos, b c 621, d 641, Jedidah 48 K Josiah, b c 649, d 610, Hamutal 49 K Zedekiah, b c 578, 599 KINGS OF IRELAND 50 K Heremon, b b c 580, Tea Tephi51 K Irail, Foidh reigned 10 years 52 K Ethraill, reigned 20 years 53 Follain 54 K Tighennas, reigned 50 years 55 Eanbotha 56 Smiorguil 57 K Fiachadh Labhraine, reigned 24 years 58 K Aongus Ollmuchaidh, reigned 21 years 59 Maoin 60 K Rogheachta, reigned 25 years 61 Dein 62 K Siorna Saoghalach, reigned 21 years 63 Oholla Olchaoin 64 K Giallchadh, reigned 9 years 65 K Aodhain Glas, reigned 22 years 66 K Simeon Breac, reigned 6 years 67 K Muireadach Bolgrach, reigned 4 years 68 K Fiachadh Tolgrach, reigned 7 years 69 K Duach Laidrach, reigned 10 years 70 Eochaidh Buaigollorg 71 K Ugaine More the Great, reigned 30 years 72 K Cobhthach Coalbreag, reigned 30 years 73 Meilage 74 K Jaran Gleofathach, reigned 7 years 75 K Coula Cruaidh Cealgach, reigned 4 years 76 K Oiliolla Caisfhiachach, reigned 25 years 77 K Eochaidh Foltleathan, reigned 11 years 78 K Aongus Tuirmheach Teamharch, reigned 30 years 79 K Eana Aighneach, reigned 28 years 80 Labhra Suire 81 Blathucta 82 Eassamhuin Eamhua 83 Roighnein Ruadh 84 Finlogha 85 Fian 86 K Eodchaidh Feidhlioch, reigned 12 years 87 Fineamhuas 88 Lughaidh Raidhdearg 89 K Criomthan Niadhnar, reigned 16 years 90 Fearaidhach Fion-Feachtnuigh 91 K Fiachadh Fionoluidh, reigned 20 years 92 K Tuathal Teachtmar, reigned 30 years 93 K Coun Ceadchathach, reigned 20 years 94 K Arb Aonflier, reigned 30 years 95 K Cormae Usada, reigned 40 years 96 K Caibre Liffeachair, reigned 27 years 97 K Fiachadh Sreabthuine, reigned 30 years 98 K Muireadhach Tireach, reigned 30 years 99 K Eoachaidh Moigmeodhin, reigned 7 years 100 K Niall of the Nine Hostages 101 Eogan 102 K Muireadhach 103 Earca KINGS OF ARGYLESHIRE 104 K Feargus More, a d 437105 K Dongard, d 457 106 K Conran, d 535 107 K Aidan, d 604 108 K Eugene IV, d 622 109 K Donald IV, d 650 110 Dongard 111 K Eugene V., d 692 112 Findan 113 K Eugene VII, d a d 721, Spondau. 114 K Etfinus, d a d 761, Fergina 115 K Achaius, d a d 819, Fergusia SOVEREIGNS OF SCOTLAND 116 K Alpin, d 834117 K Kenneth II, d 854 118 K Constantin II, d 874 119 K Donald VI, d 903 120 K Malcolm I, d 958 121 K Kenneth III, d 994 122 K Malcolm II, d 1033 123 Beatrix m. Thane Albanach 124 K Duncan I, d 1040 125 K Malcolm III Canmore, d 1055,1093, Margaret of England 126 K David I, d 1153, Maud of Northumberland 127 Prince Henry, d 1153, Adama of Surry 128 Earl David, d 1219, Maud of Chester 129 Isabel m Robert Bruce III 130 Robert Bruce IV m Isabel of Gloucester 131 Robert Bruce V m Martha of Carriok 132 K Robert I. Bruce, d 1306,1329, Mary of Burke 133 Margary Bruce m Walter Stewart III 134 K Robert II, d 1390, Euphonia of Ross, d 1376 135 K Robert II, d 1460, Arabella Drummond, d 1401 136 K James I, d 1424, 1437, Joan Beaufort 137 K James I, d 1406, Margaret of Gueldres, d 1463 138 K James III,d 148 8, Margaret of Denmark, d 1484 139 K James IV, d 1543, Margaret of England, d 1539 140 K James V,d 1542, Mary of Lorraine, d 1560 141 Q Mary, d 1587, Lord Henry Darnley SOVEREIGNS OF GREAT BRITAIN 142 K James VI and I, d 1603, 1625, Anne of Denmark143 Princess Elizabeth, 1596, 1613, K Frederick of Bohemia 144 Princess Sophia m Duke Ernest of Brunswick 145 K George I, 1698, 1727, Sophia Dorothea Zelle, 1667, 1726 146 K George II., 1727, 1760, Princess Caroline of Anspach, 1683, 1737 147 Prince Frederick of Wales, 1707, 1751, Princess Augusta of Saxe-Gotha, 1744, 1818 148 K George III, 1760, 1820, Princess Sophia of Mecklenberg Strelitz 149 Duke Edward of Kent, 1767, 1820, Princess Victoria of Leinengen 150 Queen Victoria, b 1819, cr 1838, Prince Albert of Saxe-Coburg " Information provided at: British Israelism - WikipediaAll nations are now rushing toward the grand smash events foretold to occur in the “last days.” Humanity plunges ahead—blind, pleasure-crazed and largely detached from important world events occurring daily. American, British, Canadian and other Western leaders would take action, if they only knew what lies ahead. Great prophetic truths, revealing amazing—indeed astonishing—climactic changes soon to stagger all civilization, go unrecognized. But Western leaders, with the rest of the world, remain in ignorance—WHY? Now you can learn what vast millions have not understood! Germanic Saxons Being The Tribe of Judah | Truth Control http://davidsthrone.com/ The Modern Descendants of Zara-Judah http://www.theantechamber.net/Vk2008/StoneOfJacobThrone.htmPage not found | The Ensign Message
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Panda Member (Idle past 3963 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined:
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From your own links:
quote:But at least it answers the question: "Where are you getting this nonsense from?" And looking at 'your' list of irish kings, at least one of them is a woman.
SD writes: Thor... The have thier ancestory that go back to King David, Jesus, Muhammad, and even Thor! Edited by Panda, : No reason given. Edited by Panda, : No reason given. Edited by Panda, : No reason given. Edited by Panda, : No reason given.Tradition and heritage are all dead people's baggage. Stop carrying it!
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9489 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 6.1 |
In other words your source lied. I see nothing from the College of Arms. All this is is ridiculous fundy nonsense. Lets see some documentation for this "genealogy"
As I stated before this is all crap with no evidence.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Coragyps Member (Idle past 985 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined:
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78 K Aongus Tuirmheach Teamharch, reigned 30 years I want to see his long-form birth certificate.
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ScottyDouglas Member (Idle past 4582 days) Posts: 79 Joined: |
This is easy to see. Go to coat of arms of Prince Charles of England. On his coat of arms you see the following: 1. representative Lion - This Lion of thier arms descends from Judah. Even further back to Babylon. Opposite the Lion is a unicorn this unicorn also represents Israel. In the middle of the arms is a harp. This Harp is the harp of David this symbolizes that the British monarch is heir to Davids throne. Also is was a must for Charles to marry Diana because she was princess of Wales who sports the Red Dragon. The red dragon is chained to the unicorn this symbolizes that the unicorn is controlled by the red dragon. All these symbolize Israel, Judah, and the antichrist. His Lion looks as though it was a Lion but is not. It is the mouth of a Lion, the feet of a Bear, and the body of a leopard. He has a little lion atop this crest also giving into the Little horn.
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