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Granny Magda
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Message 147 of 308 (673290)
09-18-2012 12:06 PM


Moochers
What amazes me is how Romney has this crazy notion that the 47% must be Obama voters, even going so far as to repeat it in his response. Because... well, they must be right? Am I right? They're a bunch of moochers, so they must be democrats. Must be.
Oh.
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Message 166 of 308 (673408)
09-19-2012 2:21 AM
Reply to: Message 148 by New Cat's Eye
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Re: Moochers
Hi CS,
The 47% figure that Romney was mangling is about households, not individuals. Since there is typically more than one person in a household, if 47% of households are going to block vote Democrat, the state will turn blue, guaranteed. If Romney seriously believes this drivel, he ought to give up now, because it would not be possible for him to win.
Anyway, that's not the point. the point is that Romney is apparently so retarded as to genuinely believe that anyone and everyone in that 47% is an Obama voter. That is an insult, not so much to Democrats, but to all those poor dumb-ass working class republicans in the 47%.
There was never a good reason for poor families to vote Republican. Fortunately Romney has been kind enough to spell that out in public.
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Message 175 of 308 (673429)
09-19-2012 11:34 AM
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09-19-2012 10:52 AM


Re: Moochers
Are you assuming that households that vote Democrat have more people in them than those that vote Republican?
Yeah, I kinda suspect that to be the case. Couldn't prove it though if I'm honest. Poorer households tend to be larger...
What are the odds of a politician seriously believing their drivel?
If it's deliberate bullshit, I'm not sure that makes it any better. Is this really the best bullshit he could come up with? It's transparently stupid, it insults some of his base supporters and it makes Romney look out of touch with the real world.
The way he talks about it though, it's as though 47% will support Obama and the other 53% is, at least in part, still to play for. Well if that's the case he's totally screwed. A block vote of that size would swing it. It doesn't strike me as the best thing to say at a fundraiser.
I was just questioning because your joke seemed to be a non-sequitor. Take Texas. We can all agree that's a red state, right? Your map has 39% of filers with no liability. According to wiki: In 2008, 55.48% (4,467,748) voted Republican and 43.72% (3,521,164) voted Democrat in the presidential election. So it doesn't necessarily follow that all those filers couldn't have voted Democrat while the state is red. I don't doubt that not all of them did, it just doesn't follow in the hurr-durr sense that you were joking about.
Key words there; "I don't doubt that not all of them did". Of course you don't doubt it, because those of us not living on Planet Mitt know full well that the 47% percent will include both Republicans and Democrats... and Libertarians and Greens, and other small party voters... and a hell of a lot who just don't vote. That's a big part of what makes this so stupid; people don't vote in uniform blocks like that. This whole line of rhetoric stinks of a naive view of how the world works or at least panders to one.
What I mostly found so funny was that Romney should insult low-income republicans like that. He should have known that he was smearing some of his own. He's conflating this 47% with Obama voters, when a child ought to be able to predict that in fact, many of them are going to be Republican or just not Obama supporters. The image fairly heavily implies that there are indeed a hell of a lot of people that in the 47% who vote Republican. I mostly just think that it's amusing to watch as Romney pisses in the faces of his own supporters. Nice campaigning there fella!
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