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Message 152 of 830 (856628)
07-01-2019 10:47 PM
Reply to: Message 151 by Sarah Bellum
07-01-2019 10:32 PM


Backstroke.

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Message 159 of 830 (856784)
07-02-2019 9:58 PM
Reply to: Message 157 by Sarah Bellum
07-02-2019 5:13 PM


Koalas didn't have to go from here to there and back. Only Turkey to Aussie.

The koala is an in-species daughter kind microevolved from the teddybear kind on the Ark. It wasn't until they got to Hawaii that they started getting sluggish and lazy and those cute little faces. Barely made it to Brisbane before they could barely move anymore.

BTW, the eucalyptus thing is just a faint. They all go in to Macca's when the researchers aren't watching.

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Message 162 of 830 (856793)
07-02-2019 10:44 PM
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07-02-2019 10:33 PM


Yes. That's in the fossil record.

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Message 164 of 830 (856795)
07-02-2019 10:46 PM
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07-02-2019 10:36 PM


It's also possible that the koalas weren't yet koalas, descending from whatever ancestor was on the ark some time after the landing,

Damn I'm good!

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Message 166 of 830 (856797)
07-02-2019 10:54 PM
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07-02-2019 10:50 PM


You have to make an effort not to just shoot off the first debunking thought that comes into your little head.

Kettle meets pot.


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Message 172 of 830 (856846)
07-03-2019 12:25 PM
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07-03-2019 11:51 AM


There is a book that says all this and it sold a lot of copies.

If that's the one with the soothing cover that says "Don't Panic" I think I have a copy. I especially like the Zebra-crossing bit.


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Message 191 of 830 (856939)
07-04-2019 10:53 AM
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07-04-2019 10:04 AM


Ahh, but with a majik flud to wave around ...

I hope you have a strong sense of humor because the answer to this might make you cry.


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Message 616 of 830 (873753)
03-19-2020 9:45 AM
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03-19-2020 4:41 AM


Re: Taxonomic classification

Fish-bird.

Rat-bird.

I'll just let myself out now.


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Message 768 of 830 (887686)
08-20-2021 7:47 AM
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08-20-2021 4:24 AM


Re: Ordinary selection of built in variation is not species to species evolution
So why do creationists pretend that it doesn't teach that?

Dredge doesn't understand what a phylum is. He doesn't realize the dog-kind and the cat-kind are the same kind by that definition. And as you and Percy point out, the human-kind is also in that same phylum.

Dog-kind, cat-kind and human-kind are all the same "biblical" kind and the only differences between them are micro-evolution.

I'm not sure that works for the creationist without a really bad idea of what a phylum is. Regardless, it doesn't work in reality either.

The worst part of this whole scene is that the definition if phylum is very quickly and easily known. Dredge didn't even check to see if that definition fit his wet dream. I guess this lack of intellect is to be expected from creationists.

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Message 772 of 830 (887723)
08-21-2021 4:19 AM
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08-21-2021 2:47 AM


Re: Ordinary selection of built in variation is not species to species evolution
Which Bible verse says/implies a toad could give birth to a human?

Kind begets kind, right?

If kind = phylum as you say then:

Toads are phylum chordata. Humans are phylum chordata.

Therefore toads beget humans.

Your god said so.

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Message 776 of 830 (887748)
08-21-2021 3:18 PM
Reply to: Message 774 by Dredge
08-21-2021 3:03 PM


Re: Ordinary selection of built in variation is not species to species evolution
Pray tell, what " lie" have I uttered?

Your Message 764

quote:
The various phylum appear suddenly (no evidence of a line of gradual evolutionary progression) in the fossil record, and contrary to the evolutionist propaganda, there is no fossil evidence of "branches" connecting phyla to form the single "tree" of common ancestry of Darwinist folklore. The fossil evidence looks more like an orchard than one lone tree.

In short, the creation of separate "kinds" explains the fossil evidence better than universal common descent.


You lied.


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Message 781 of 830 (887755)
08-21-2021 4:20 PM
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08-21-2021 3:43 PM


Re: Ordinary selection of built in variation is not species to species evolution
The fossil record shows phyla appearing suddenly and separately; after which diversification occurs within each phylum.

The "sudden" appearance of these critters was preceded by their soft-bodied ancestors and, being lucky, even then we have the rare fossils of such pre-cambrian critters.

quote:
Tracks from an animal with leg-like appendages have been found in what was mud 551 million years ago.

Precambrian - Wikipedia

The major body plans were well on their way in development when the hard-body versions developed and stuck easily in the mud to be fossilized.

It should be no surprise that these newly evolved critters would further diversify over the next 30 million years. That's what evolution does. And THAT is where and when the present body plans evolved.

Not suddenly or separately but slowly over millions of years in further development of life from the pre-cambrian populations.

Sounds like you too have been misled.

If acknowledging the known facts is being misled then you are crazier than you sound.

Denial of known fact is lying.

You are lying.


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Message 783 of 830 (887757)
08-21-2021 5:11 PM
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08-21-2021 4:55 PM


Re: Ordinary selection of built in variation is not species to species evolution
In the face of all the truckloads of evidence Dredge insists it's all fake.

If he truly believes his god creation fantasy is true and all of human intellect is wrong then you are right. He is not lying. He's god awful fucking stupid.


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Message 796 of 830 (887770)
08-21-2021 10:04 PM
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08-21-2021 8:38 PM


Re: Ordinary selection of built in variation is not species to species evolution
If common ancestry is the reality, such contradictions should not exist and different forms of evidence should all point to one, unambiguous phylogenetic tree.

You did some reading. I'm impressed.

Did you manage to see any of these contradictions and where they violate the phylogenetic tree systematic? Did you see where these disagreements deal with placement of critters ON THE SAME twig but whether critter A evolved from the founder population before or after critter B?

Did you bother to read WHAT these disagreements entail?

No.

There is no disagreement on the phylogenetic tree paradigm. There are minor disagreements on exact placement of some critters WITHIN that critters naturally evolving clade.

Can you find us a controversy where the nested hierarchy concept would be violated?

No, you can't.

You take some minor disagreements and use them to lie about their effect on the whole edifice.

You can show NO tree controversy in the major discipline that contradicts ANY of the nested hierarchy reality.

Thank you for this little piece of Darwinist folkllore. What a pity there is next to nothing in the fossil record to support it.

Obviously, from your other fantasy submissions, your research scholarship is lacking and this sloppy observation is dismissed as the ravings of an ignorant religious rube.

Just curious ... how would you describe my "god creation fantasy", exactly?

Abject stupidity but with demons.


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Message 798 of 830 (887772)
08-21-2021 10:07 PM
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08-21-2021 9:53 PM


Re: Ordinary selection of built in variation is not species to species evolution
Are you really that God-phobic?

I'm dumb-phobic. Dumb people who blind themselves to reality for the sake of an obvious falsehood, like religion, make my skin crawl.

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