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Author Topic:   General Discussion Of Moderation Procedures 10.0
Quetzal
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Message 43 of 305 (384205)
02-10-2007 2:39 PM
Reply to: Message 42 by Fosdick
02-10-2007 1:48 PM


Re: "The Chosen Few"
You don’t get away with very much careless or unpopular thinking around here . UNLESS you happen to be a member of the Chosen Few.
In the first place, I would argue that there is no such animal on this site. No one, and I mean NO ONE, gets a free pass. If you don't believe me, dig around a bit and see if you can find the lengthy (and for me, heartbreaking) symbiosis thread where WK, for instance, obliterated a long-cherished misapprehension on my part. Now THAT was painful.
As to how Admins are chosen, it's mostly a concensus decision by other admins. Usually someone who has a long history of good, well-argued posts (from either side) is asked to participate. Sometimes virtually blackmailed into it (which was the case with me - ask Moose about it sometime). Beyond that, as far as I can tell, there's no special criteria except for a latent masochistic desire to be berated continuously for decisions people don't agree with.
As to your complain concerning WK, my suggestion would be to break that out into a separate post, provide links to the specific messages you feel are germane, and then one of the other admins can take a look. As a participant in that thread, it is sort of inappropriate for me to also moderate it. However, as far as that goes, I honestly didn't see anything from him that was actionable - he appeared to be discussing your reference mostly, which is perfectly legitimate. However, I may have missed something.
The Showcase Forum was designed as a venue for true problem posters - those who, from personality or other reasons have over a long period shown that they are either incapable of accepting moderator requests OR are incapable of civil discourse, or both. The very existence of Showcase is, in my opinion, problematic. However, it's one of Percy's pet projects. To participate in Showcase, all you need is permission. To be relegated to Showcase, however, is a concensus decision (usually after long and occasionally acrimonious discussion) among admins.
On a final note, Percy is indeed top dog here. It's his site, he did most of the programming, he foots the bills, and the site is his dream. On the other hand, I've never seen him use his infinite cosmic powers to squelch anything by anyone as long as the forum guidelines aren't violated - or even a reasonable facsimile thereof.
Hope this answers your questions.

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Quetzal
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Message 49 of 305 (384361)
02-11-2007 9:22 AM
Reply to: Message 47 by Adminnemooseus
02-10-2007 11:20 PM


Re: The genesis of AdminQuetzal etc.
but I do know that I attempted to recruit him as an admin many years ago (before most of the current admins came to be). He had declined
If my faulty and aging memory serves, you made at least three attempts over the years. Fortunately, up until recently I was still young and agile enough to dodge the tranq dart and capture net.
So he decided it was "put up or shut up" time, and volunteered to becoming an admin.
Or something like that.
Actually, my recollection was it was more along the lines of "Quit yer whinin' and complainin' and shut up, or grow some backbone and do something about it".
Or words to that effect.
Too old and slow to dodge, I guess.

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Quetzal
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Message 61 of 305 (385565)
02-16-2007 7:57 AM
Reply to: Message 60 by Nighttrain
02-15-2007 8:24 PM


Re: Hang `em high
Hi Night. My (somewhat hazy) recollection is that nuts appear to be cyclic in nature. We tend to get periodic surges in the number of new posters putting out things like "U R go to Hell. Gd is Luv", especially around Christmas, Easter break, and the end of the school year.
As to the RoyBean Effect, I'm not sure I agree that it represents a decrease in tolerance. It may be more related to an increase in vigilance. The mod team seems more active now that it has typically been in the past - more mods, more interventions. That may just be my biased opinion, however. Do you notice something specific, or is this just a general impression?

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Quetzal
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Message 81 of 305 (387906)
03-03-2007 3:14 PM
Reply to: Message 80 by AdminBuzsaw
03-03-2007 3:01 PM


Re: AdminBuz's action just more whining
Well Ol' Buz,
Sorry to see you go. You haven't messed up many of the bio threads - sticking mostly to cosmology it appears - so I don't have the same issues as others.
Just one question: Don't you think it's a little silly to ban Buz, but not delete the AdminBuz account? Strange, in any case.

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Quetzal
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Posts: 3228
Joined: 01-09-2002


Message 89 of 305 (387991)
03-03-2007 9:25 PM
Reply to: Message 85 by AdminBuzsaw
03-03-2007 7:34 PM


Re: AdminBuz's action just more whining
I guess the answer to the question you ask is that perhaps my presence may afford opportunity to offer some suggestions for establishing some balance in the forums and to continue doing what I've tried to do in PAF.
Well, if that is the purpose, then I stand answered. It just seemed odd.
As to your comments concerning Faith and Randman, suffice that I agree with you inre Faith (if you're in contact with her, please let her know that although I found her intensely frustrating at times, I did enjoy many of our conversations.) On Rand, however, I disagree. The Randman "Travelling Circus and One-Trick Pony Show" was extremely disruptive. In fact, I would say that of all the creo etc posters that have been here in the past - including you - he was the one that most exemplified what you are being accused of, IMO.
Anyway, see you around.

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