NoNukes writes:
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This thread is not about whether God exists, which yes, is beyond the realm of science
No, it isn't. Not that the thread isn't about this or that but rather that the question of god's existence is "beyond the realm of science."
No, it isn't. God is an object. Any object that interacts with us will necessarily leave traces. Those trace can be examined by science. It's how we know that somebody was in the room with the dead body and thus the body died not from any sort of natural cause or accident but because of murder.
A god that leaves no trace upon the universe is not actually interacting with the universe and thus, has no connection with it nor is it responsible for anything we might see in it.
Note, this isn't denying that god's work might be subtle and difficult to detect. Instead, it's about the claim that it is "beyond the realm of science." By stating that, you necessarily remove god from any possible position within the universe. God either interacts with the universe or not and if god does, then god is susceptible to scientific investigation.
For example, there are those who claim that god create a world-wide flood approximately 4500 years ago.
That is a claim that can be scientifically examined. Should that examination determine that there was no world-wide flood approximately 4500 years ago (or any time), then that necessarily means that that god does not exist.
So no, the question of the existence of god is most definitely within the realm of science.
You just need to define what you mean by "god." Of course, a definition that is so vague that it cannot be used means it does not exist for objects without definition by necessity do not exist.
Rrhain
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