Please give me so-called "proof" of Jesus or God.

Those Greek myths may not have been entirely unfounded...Genesis 6:4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days -- and also afterward -- when the angels went to the daughters of men and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.Numbers 13:32 "...All the people we saw there are of great size. We saw the Nephilim there (the descendants of Anak come from the Nephilim). We seemed like grasshoppers in our own eyes, and we looked the same to them."edited to add: ... sorry this is off-topicThis message has been edited by Hangdawg13, 06-29-2004 10:36 PM

You do not consider the prophecies that Jesus fulfilled even slightly significant?

Well, when several authors describe an event hundreds of years before it happens, that tells us something.

That is probably why Matthew Mark Luke and John wrote down the gospels. Misinformation began to circulate and they wanted to set the record straight and make sure that future believers would know the truth. Just my opinion of course, but it is reasonable.

Tru datEverything in the OT from the sacrificial system to the stories of man's fall to the stories of the judges and kings to the stories of Israel's continual rejection and reconciliation with God to the prophecies of the coming messiah, point to man's depravity and need for and receipt of a savior bringing reconciliation. Everything in the NT points back to the messiah that came and brought reconciliation and who, as it says in Gen. 5:29 "will give us comfort us in the painful toil of our hands caused by the ground the Lord has cursed."God's fingerprints are everywhere for those who wish to see them. One of the biggest evidences of God is the need for purpose, a deeper meaning to life, an explanation of why things have gone wrong, and an explanation of how to make things right, and a completely inexplicable peace and feeling of complete fulfillment, satisfaction, and unshakeable happiness when walking with God.

Well, aside from individual experience, which is no good to you, and aside from the general human condition, which you don't feel you are ailing of, the greatest proof that Jesus existed and was God, the Christ, the messiah, is in the prophecies that He fulfilled, because if specific prophecy is successfully fulfilled then that is proof the message is from God who is outside of time. I have not personally studied much prophecy because I thought the subject was kind of boring, but engaging in this site, I realize how important it is. I think the message of prophecy is powerful enough, to allow those who wish to know God absolute certainty in the fact that His word is truth, but designed to not be so overwhelming as to disallow those who do not want to know God from believing in Him.

Jar when are you going to drop your bombshell about why you believe? You promised us you'd give it and it must be very interesting. I'm ready to hear it!