Abortion questions...?

Actually, the terms pro-life and pro-choice are classic examples of Humpty-Dumpty definitions. I'll give the folk marketing the anti-abortion, pro-forced parenthood, pro-rape parenthood, pro-incest parenthood, pro illicit abortion, pro uncontrolled abortion position lots of credit for choosing the moniker "pro-life".But the fact is that they did just decide what the words would mean.

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

You do realize that quebec is the most taxed part of north america ? You do realize my father gives 55% of his salary to the government ?I am the one paying for abortions here in quebec. I am the one paying for the late abortions we send over in Kansas. I am the one paying for everything in the medical system.And if the government decided to give more ressources to woman who wanted to keep their babies, I would be the one paying for it. As I said earlier in this thread, we do both. We support financially a home for woman who decided to have the child.

Sorry for being rude, but when, in a sentence, I want to refer to the collection of persons who are for legalized abortion, it is perfectly legitimate that I use the appropriate word for this.There is certainly a difference between pro-choice and pro-abortion, and when the nuance is needed in one way or another, I just use the appropriate word. But in most situations, both words can be used and in those cases I am free to use whichever one. Although I guess, seeing as it offends everyone, I could use pro-choice in those situations.

There is a difference between inventing a new word you like, and giving it a definition, and taking a pre-existing word, who already has a definition, and redefine it how you like it ...

Then you have no issue if we call you anti-choice?

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"What can be asserted without proof, can be dismissed without proof."-Hitch.

You said yourself that not enough was being done. So do more. Lobby for higher taxes or do more privately so the government doesn't have to do it for you.

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"I'm Rory Bellows, I tell you! And I got a lot of corroborating evidence... over here... by the throttle!"

But in the case of the terms "pro-life" and "pro-choice" it was an example of both creating and redefining new words. Choosing to create and define "pro-life" was a brilliant marketing ploy.

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

Then do that here.

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"I'm Rory Bellows, I tell you! And I got a lot of corroborating evidence... over here... by the throttle!"

I continue to contend that a daploid-(zygote) only has the potential to become an embryo. If it doesn't though, that zygote has no more potential to become a human than the previous haploid.Haploid - potential to be a zygote. Zygote - potential to be an embryo. Embryo - potential to be a fetus. Fetus - potential to be born, and what would then be considered a baby with the potential for toddler age, teenage years, and finally an adult...which, if it's a female, has the potential to get DP'd by me and a friend. Not like it? Ha, I love it. Because they can't produce evidence and they remove themselves from the debate for that very reason. - Oni

Thanks, brotha.- Oni

define anti-choice

Which is why I consider myself pro-choice and not pro-abortion. I think women should have the right to an abortion, but I do wish that no abortions took place. The same for free speech and flag burning. If I am for legalization then I am pro-legalization. That is what the "pro-" portion means, it means "for". We support the legal aspect, not the medical aspect. Pro-abortion literally means "for abortions". No one here is for abortions. We are for legalization.

As I said it's a nuance, pro-choice means someone who is for abortion to be legal and that the choice to abort or not is woman's choice.So a pro-choice is automatically pro-abortion, but pro-abortion not necessarily pro-choice (although it would be weird to be for legal abortions. but wanting someone else to decide for the woman ...)

Anti-choice would be the position where someone is against the idea that a woman and a doctor should make the choice of whether to abort a pregnancy or not. Pro-choice is the position where someone believes that such a choice should be made by a woman and her doctor.

It is an important nuance nonetheless, just as the nuance between the pro-freespeech and pro-flagburning positions, or between anti-temperance and pro-alcoholism.