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RAZD Member (Idle past 238 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Hi Panda
but first tell him that the rate of deposit was even higher in the young solar system ... It's also a copy paste http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=2012022820110... which is also a copy paste from the formating. Another creationist that doesn't check his sources accuracy. Enjoy. by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. • • • Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click) • • •
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 50 days) Posts: 16112 Joined:
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I think I see his problem.
He's a creationist. I don't see how he could have infected his calculator with his stupidity, but even if he could, anyone with half a brain would have spotted an error of that ... what's the word? ... ah yes, magnitude.
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Jefferinoopolis Junior Member (Idle past 2923 days) Posts: 19 Joined:
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Allowing that his numbers are correct that is a .0000003% change in the earth's mass over 4.5 billion years.
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dwise1 Member Posts: 4480 Joined: Member Rating: 5.2
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The other major error is in his belief that the mass of the earth would have an effect of its orbit. When the orbiting body is significantly less massive than the body being orbited (about 1,000,000 to 1 here), then the only mass that has any significance in the two-body problem is the central mass being orbited.
IOW, his quote: is, like the rest of his claim, hokum. He has no understanding of orbital mechanics, in addition to no understanding of simple arithmetic.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 238 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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oh please, another ... creationidist pratt monger
Now let's define macroevolution as used in science ... and then look at the evidence we have for that ... in the world around us, in the DNA record, and in the fossil record. Enjoy. by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. • • • Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click) • • •
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Theodoric Member Posts: 7051 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined:
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I wonder if he will even know what this means
Since he thinks his figures are correct. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Panda Member (Idle past 2546 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined:
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The reply in on Yahoo was perhaps better suited:
quote: Or maybe like this is better still... 5,973,600,000,000,000,000,000,000 Though I doubt that alkimizta2012 will read this. If I were you And I wish that I were you All the things I'd do To make myself turn blue
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nwr Member Posts: 5675 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 7.7
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I gave the PNT Atheists control science a cheer, because I think it is a topic that needs discussion. However, I do not agree with the author's view.
My comment here: I hope the thread is promoted to a forum where Buzsaw is able to participate in the discussion. Jesus was a liberal hippie
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petrophysics1 Inactive Member
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Percy perhaps this will help you out.
The proxy being talked about in the emails is using dendrochronology, corals and ice cores to determine temperature. The OP thinks it's about dating, it's not. What exactly is the problem? Well the guys who wrote the emails want to fuck with the dendrochronology, coral, and ice core data so that it matches their preconceived idea that AGW is true. Their problem is the d,c &ic data does not match their massaged, perhaps made up recent temp data. So let's throw the d,c & ic under the bus to save our grant money otherwise we will have to go out and get a job in the private sector where we will be expected to produce results. Put this in RAZD's dating thread it will last about one post. You could stick it in the "GW is a scam" thread, be great ammo for foreveryoung. Or maybe with a modification in the OP put it in "Is it Science" forum. How ethical are scientists when their livelyhood and research is being funded by political/government organizations? Hope that helped. P.S. In over 35 years working as a geologist I haven't seen a problem with d,c or ic data for use to determine either dates or temp/climate. It matches the historical record very well. AGW is another story. Edited by petrophysics1, : Add P.S.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 238 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Hi petrophysics1
I have already taken that part to that thread and gotten one reply so far, just a recap not really a reply. We'll see if he pursues it.
* the "GW is a scam" is Global Warming is a Scam Good ideas, I also suggested some modification to use on Scientific vs Creationist Frauds and Hoaxes abe Taking the scam part to Global Warming is a Scam is probably the best, with the dating part already at Age Correlations and An Old Earth, Version 2 No 1 (see Message 185 onward). Of course global climate change is more correct than global warming, as most of the added energy goes into the atmosphere and is transfered into wind as well as heat -- more storms with higher energy winds, tornadoes and waterspouts in unusual places, etc. This can also be a reason for temps not matching the model -- the model is wrong on other energy transfers. /abe Enjoy. Edited by RAZD, : .. Edited by RAZD, : added end Edited by RAZD, : added message link by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. • • • Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click) • • •
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kofh2u Member (Idle past 2653 days) Posts: 1162 From: phila., PA Joined: |
I do not seem able to get a proposed topic of discussion entered into the science forum.
What am I doing wrong here? ////// Nothing in the Miller and Urey Experiment description is necessarily wrong, but doesn't really accurately reflect modern thinking on the origin of life on earth some would claim. Modern speculation on the subject is very circumspect, including religious claims of a Spontaneous Generation, and the scientific suspicion of some concrete chemistry at work. No recent responsible presentation would offer a simplistic scenario like Miller and Urey Experiment without making clear that it's just a very simplified and speculative summary of one possibility for abiogenesis (i.e. the de facto Spontaneous Generation which religion and science had long espoused over the centuries until this very day. So, is this at present really support for the religious community which asserts that some unnatural forces created Life or is there evidence which science can use to show a more natural Cause an Effect relationship here? Edited by kofh2u, : No reason given.
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kofh2u Member (Idle past 2653 days) Posts: 1162 From: phila., PA Joined: |
The Hockey Stick Curve for temperature rise parallels the hockey Stick Curve for Deforrestation over the same period of time.
Could the Lumber Industry be creating a tree-barren Easter Island over all the Earth as it eliminates the Carbon sucking trees from the planet?
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Admin Director Posts: 12715 From: EvC Forum Joined: |
Can you describe what happens when you try to create a topic proposal?
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kofh2u Member (Idle past 2653 days) Posts: 1162 From: phila., PA Joined: |
I think a menu came up and said "you can post in this thread" or something like that.
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Admin Director Posts: 12715 From: EvC Forum Joined: |
You don't say what you did. Did you click on the "New Topic" button? If not, then what did you do?
If you did click on the "New Topic" button then you should have seen this message:
Did you see this message? Or did you see something else? If you saw something else, then what did you see? If you did see this message, did you follow the instructions? If so, what happened?
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