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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Cops didn’t enforce law on anti-lockdown protesters, COVID-19 spread
quote: Davidson predicts that we will see more of this following the April 30th protests. If we keep doing the same thing over and over we’re never going to get out of this. (image from Cellphone data shows protesters dispersed across Michigan, raising concerns of spreading coronavirus) Edited by JonF, : No reason given.
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Percy Member Posts: 22504 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9
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Yesterday Trump said, I feel about vaccines like I feel about tests: This is going to go away without a vaccine. It’s going to go away, and we’re not going to see it again, hopefully, after a period of time.
This is yet another example of Trump lying to the American people. Evidence suggests that approximately 40% of Americans will believe him. He should leave communication of information about the disease to the experts. His comments on other topics, such as the economy, are less idiotic and ignorant. --Percy
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2587 From: massachusetts US Joined: Member Rating: 6.4 |
even if they get a vaccine, it will be obsolete when it hits the public. the mutation rate makes this a lethal moving target.
"I'd rather be an American than a Trump Supporter." - xongsmith, 5.7d
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
But we know the answer to that problem and it is, as it has always been, vigilance and communication. The former Trump disbanded and the latter he restricts.
Should work jess fine.
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LamarkNewAge Member Posts: 2424 Joined: Member Rating: 1.2 |
Without considering social distancing, he said there will be 350,000 to 1.2 million US deaths by August.
This is an expert.
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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Percy Member Posts: 22504 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9
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xongsmith writes: even if they get a vaccine, it will be obsolete when it hits the public. the mutation rate makes this a lethal moving target. All virus routinely mutate, the coronavirus is no different. Scientists believe that all the mutations detected so far are inconsequential as related to vaccine sensitivity, and of course that could change. There's some info on the web, for example see COVID-19 Will Mutate What That Means for a Vaccine. --Percy
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Percy Member Posts: 22504 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9
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Our experience with the covid-19 virus tells us that most cases are mild, so mild that many people have had it unawares. But many cases are more severe. These percentages are rough and likely lower because we don't have an accurate account of the number infected, but 40% will experience symptoms, 20% will be hospitalized, 10% will be in an ICU, 6% will be on ventilators, and 2% will die.
Here is the story of a woman who has had persistent covid-19 for weeks: ‘How long can a heart last like this?’. Everyone should take every precaution to avoid catching a virus that can cause an experience like this, not just for themselves but for the people they might in turn infect. --Percy
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LamarkNewAge Member Posts: 2424 Joined: Member Rating: 1.2
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A type of toxic shock that has hit 73 children in New York alone.
Most had Coronavirus. There is a fear that this might be another problem that could soon spread. Genetic information is being considered.
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LamarkNewAge Member Posts: 2424 Joined: Member Rating: 1.2 |
The popular Imperial College London prediction model said Sweden would see 40,000 deaths by May 1, and 100,000 by June 1.
Only around 3000 to 3500 as of May 10. Less deaths per person than Spain, Italy, U.K., and France. A bit more per person than the United States. 85 to 90 percent of deaths in Sweden have been over 70 years old. Sweden's leaders have admitted that they messed up when it came to the elderly and nursing homes. Steps are being taken to target the elderly for special protection.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
Damning
Academic research from Imperial College in London, modeling the U.S. response, estimates that up to 90 percent of COVID-19 deaths could have been prevented had the U.S. moved to shut down by March 2nd. And that’s only the start.
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Percy Member Posts: 22504 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9
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No one should have a cavalier or complacent attitude about catching this virus, figuring they'll just catch it, recover, and be done with it. This virus is not benign. It can do dangerous things to the body, as the Post detailed in an article yesterday (Doctors keep discovering new ways the coronavirus attacks the body). "Often it attacks the lungs, but it can also strike anywhere from the brain to the toes." It has a great capacity to cause blood clots in the extremities, which was the mechanism responsible for Broadway star Nick Cordero's loss of a leg just a few weeks ago. No one is safe from this virus.
The novel coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2 is the technical designation) has a mainstream presentation of a fever, cough and shortness of breath, but it can present itself in a variety of other ways. This variety derives from its ability to wreak havoc on blood vessels, leading to clots that range in size and can travel all over, including the brain, lungs and kidneys (in fact, the kidneys are a common target as the virus attacks the waste filtering cells). Whenever the clots lodge in a critical organ there could be catastrophic consequences, and which organ will catch a clot cannot be predicted. The variety also derives from the body's own immune response, which can go into overdrive and begin attacking the very body it was intended to protect. Which part of the body will the immune system attack? Unpredictable. You do not want to catch this virus. The most likely outcome is that you'll be fine, but the chances that you won't be are far from negligible. --Percy Edited by Percy, : Fix typo.
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Percy Member Posts: 22504 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
Trump yesterday claimed that the US leads the world in testing, speaking before a banner declaring this untruth:
We've tested more people that any other country, but that's because the US has more people than almost any other country (China and India are the only countries with larger populations, each with about four times more people). The reality is that the US is 40th in per capita testing, the important measure and the only one that matters. This is part of a table from COVID Live - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer. You can find us near the bottom:
We're 41. Yay us. --Percy
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Percy Member Posts: 22504 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
Here's today's graph of deaths per day from The Washington Post Coronavirus Page, 81,663 so far. To me this appears to show a clear downward trend:
Here's the bar graph of new cases from ArcGIS Dashboards Classic as of yesterday. I see a clear downward trend in this graph too:
Since the situation nationally regarding testing and contact tracing have not changed since the country was shut down, the gradual reopening that began around the beginning of May should soon begin to reflect itself in these charts, in another week or two for the number of cases, and in another two to five weeks for the number of deaths. There's been a great deal of recent criticism of the projection models. For instance, projections for the next few weeks depend a great deal upon how much people trust that it's safe out there. The projections can vary widely from reality because of the unpredictability of people's behavior. If people fill malls and bars and restaurants then strong upward trends in cases and deaths will resume. But if people don't trust that it's safe out there and approach public gatherings cautiously then the uptick could be small. If people are completely untrustful that it's safe then the trend could continue downward. There are two factors that cause me to believe the upward trend will resume. One is the Trump administration's encouragement of loosening and reopening. The other is many people's desire to return to work for financial reasons. --Percy
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