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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 314 days) Posts: 16113 Joined:
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The purpose of government is to provide an environment that allows the people to prosper, to live comfortably, to seek and find happiness. It is NOT to provide ... the most benefit to the most people ... Perhaps RAZD is thinking of the General Welfare clause.
I agree that the current crop of candidates aren't "the good guys." But anything will be better than the last 7 years. Yeah, if only we could put things back the way they were. Well, I guess Trump could crash the economy again, but can he bring Osama Bin Laden back to life?
What I said was that something needs to change in D.C. Putting someone in there who is NOT a politician might be just the thing to get things working again. And if that doesn't work, we can elect a giraffe. That would be different too.
No amount of Tax payers, rich or middle income, can bail us out of the hole we're in ... Evidently they can. To balance the budget, you can either cut expenditures or raise revenues. Whether the latter is desirable I leave it to you to judge, but obviously it's possible.
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Which, judging by what I see from Rick Perry, appears to only require three functioning neurons and a goofy smile. If Rick Perry has that many functioning neurons, I think he should start using all three of them. Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.
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After 7 years with the worst president in history ... Before we start arguing over whether mike is nuts or just completely ignorant of history, let's remember that most conservatives are both.
you can't keep blaming previous administrations. There's not actually a statute of limitations on how long you can go on blaming people for stuff they did. For example, if an arsonist sets a fire, there's no point at which you have to start blaming this on the fireman who's putting it out.
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He says he's going to win the Latino vote.
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Trump's all-round idiocy and loathsomeness have now put him in first place in at least one Republican primary poll. Opinion from the left is that if he gets the nomination he could be easily beaten either by Bernie Sanders, Hillary Clinton, or a yogurt.
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Good news, Jeb Bush admits that climate change exists (rather than the more popular Republican view that all the thermometers are lying to us or something). Bad news, he thinks it'll be fixed by "a person in a garage somewhere".
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 314 days) Posts: 16113 Joined:
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Is this the least convincing attempt ever to walk back a remark?
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What do you think they (the current Republican candidates) want to do to the country that is different from what past Republicans did, or wanted to do to the country? The country didn't fall into any doom when Bush 43 was president, or Bush 41, or Reagan. Or Ford, or Nixon, or Eisenhower for that matter. What's different now with Republicans? The difference is that today's Republicans would attack the policies of yesterday's Republicans as an Evil Marxist Plot to Take Away Our Freedoms and Destroy America.
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On 9-10-01, you suspected there was a chance, however slight, that a group of suicide terrorists could fly U.S. planes in to U.S. buildings and kill 3000 U.S. citizens, and on 7-29-15, you know for sure that there is NO WAY that non-suicide terrorists could enter the U.S. from the southern border, and introduce any type of killer biological or chemical weapons into the water supply of....Houston, or......New York, or both those cities plus 10 more, or 20 more? It would be rather difficult. Why would they come through the southern border, apart from to please conservatives?
And that's why the scientific community will always be so insignificant in terms of U.S. politics. BTW, how's your lot doing at getting that story about the talking snake taught in public schools? With $130,000,000,000 annual federal spending on creationist R&D, you'd think you'd be making some headway ... oh, wait, my mistake, that's science.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 314 days) Posts: 16113 Joined:
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Huckabee repeats the standard GW-denier lie about volcanoes, thus managing to be wrong by about five orders of magnitude.
Knave or fool? --- you decide.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 314 days) Posts: 16113 Joined:
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Here is his critique of the Iran deal, delivered in Sun City, SC, July 21st:
Look, having nuclearmy uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, okay, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smartyou know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, okay, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the worldit’s true!but when you're a conservative Republican they tryoh, do they do a numberthat’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortuneyou know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantagedbut you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers meit would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are (nuclear is powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what's going to happen and he was rightwho would have thought?), but when you look at what's going on with the four prisonersnow it used to be three, now it’s fourbut when it was three and even now, I would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don't, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 yearsbut the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us. This is, to give him credit, the best Republican critique yet of the Iran deal, in that it's too incoherent to contain any actual lies about it.
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Their ideas of liberty, limited government, and morality are NO DIFFERENT than those of the Republican candidates and presidents of 30 or 40 years ago. Perhaps you could get them to agree with Reagan, then, and say that "Church and state are, and must remain, separate". I liked that idea of liberty. It was the same idea of liberty preached by Madison and Jefferson. But of late it seems to have fallen out of favor among conservatives. Perhaps this has something to do with what Barry Goldwater, the Republican nominee in 1964, warned us about:
The religious factions that are growing throughout our land are not using their religious clout with wisdom. They are trying to force government leaders into following their position 100 percent. If you disagree with these religious groups on a particular moral issue, they complain, they threaten you with a loss of money or votes or both.
I'm frankly sick and tired of the political preachers across this country telling me as a citizen that if I want to be a moral person, I must believe in "A," "B," "C" and "D." Just who do they think they are? And from where do they presume to claim the right to dictate their moral beliefs to me? And I am even more angry as a legislator who must endure the threats of every religious group who thinks it has some God-granted right to control my vote on every roll call in the Senate. I am warning them today: I will fight them every step of the way if they try to dictate their moral convictions to all Americans in the name of "conservatism."
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As you know, not all the declared Republican candidates are going to be allowed to participate in the first debate, because if you put all of them on the same platform their combined evil would rend the very fabric of spacetime itself and hellbeasts would start climbing out from the netherworlds beyond and feasting on the studio audience.
For this or some more true but less interesting reason Fox News has decided to cut it down to ten based on polling. And here's the list. 1 Donald Trump2 Jeb Bush 3 Scott Walker 4 Mike Huckabee 5 Ben Carson 6 Ted Cruz 7 Marco Rubio 8 Rand Paul 9 Chris Christie 10 John Kasich Big news is, no Rick Perry, which means we won't be delighted again by seeing him forget which bits of the government he wants to abolish. Remember that? He does. The high point of his political career was five seconds before he got asked that question. Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 314 days) Posts: 16113 Joined:
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Yes I have, and I don't see a mass exodus of U.S. citizens moving there. Well no. Most U.S. citizens don't speak Norwegian, and Norway has immigration laws.
Norway gets by with its socialism largely because they're loaded with oil to export ... Yeah, it's unfair to compare a resource-rich country like Norway with a desolate barren hellhole like the United States, which has no resources except dirty sand infested with poisonous snakes. We can hardly be expected to compete with them.
... and don't have to deal with a multi billion dollar EPA. I'd bet that they don't waste billions per year "researching" global warming either. No. No, they don't have the EPA. They have something called the Norwegian Environment Agency, which has a completely different three-letter acronym.
They're not the policeman of the world like the U.S. is, and don't have the diverse population that the U.S. has. So it's not the poisonous snakes dragging us down so much as those brown people with their burritos and their mariachi music. We knew they must be to blame for something, and now thanks to you we know what.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 314 days) Posts: 16113 Joined:
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The U.S. has resources, but its government has grown so big it's largely handcuffed in its ability to use them. Right. Yes. So we have plenty of mineral wealth, arable land, oil reserves, skilled workers, etc. But thanks to government interference, all we actually produce are poisonous snakes. This makes us one of the poorest countries in the world, and unable to compete with the mighty economy of Norway, which as everyone knows is a libertarian utopia. But wait, weren't you originally trying to explain how they can afford to be socialists? If your explanation is that compared to the U.S. they have a small government with laissez-faire economic policies, then wherein does their socialism consist? Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.
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